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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #30 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 10:12 AM »
OT & Newbie question lang mga master..... Merun ako Maldol avr with 1.5Kv (220-110-&100Vac output), and i used 100vac for my vintage (420w-unit) int amp but every time na power On ko yun amp eh merun ako naririnig na "TUG" sound pero iba naman tunog nya kung nag swing yun wifer ng servo...

vibration ng casing ng regulator yun nadidinig mo caused by inrush current.

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #31 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 10:12 AM »
Parang Tripath din ang consumption and heat output  ;D  Mainit pa ata yung detubo ko na amp bwahahaha



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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #32 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 10:19 AM »
vibration ng casing ng regulator yun nadidinig mo caused by inrush current.

Ah Ok, So it is normal... Thanks brader in arms. ;)
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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #33 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 11:07 AM »
Actually a 1000W stepdown xformer will consume around 50W , unloaded.

Plantsa sa buhok.

Yep, mas mataas ang losses ng isolation transformer kesa sa typical autotransformer. :)

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #34 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 11:40 AM »
OT & Newbie question lang mga master..... Merun ako Maldol avr with 1.5Kv (220-110-&100Vac output), and i used 100vac for my vintage (420w-unit) int amp but every time na power On ko yun amp eh merun ako naririnig na "TUG" sound pero iba naman tunog nya kung nag swing yun wifer ng servo...

Sa akin naman pag On ng 1.5k AVReceiver nagkakaroon ng ugong ang AVRegulator kaya naisip kong palitan ng 2k kaso binuksan ko muna at nagkunyaring technician hehehe kaso wala naman akong nakitang abnoy then hinayaan kong ioperate ng hubad. Aba! nawala ang ugong. Then nung tinakpan ko na, so far tahimik pa din. Sana oks na nga.

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #35 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 11:46 AM »
higpitan mga scews... lagyan ng loctite... :)

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #36 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 11:59 AM »
higpitan mga scews... lagyan ng loctite... :)

tinkyu master J!  ;)

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #37 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 12:02 PM »
fyi: yun threadlocker red paps ha... hindi yun contact glue....  ;D



madami sa Avenida (5th or 6th ave) or sa Binondo... di pa ako nakakita sa ACE niyan eh...



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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #38 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 12:46 PM »
fyi: yun threadlocker red paps ha... hindi yun contact glue....  ;D



madami sa Avenida (5th or 6th ave) or sa Binondo... di pa ako nakakita sa ACE niyan eh...




Parang gasket maker din ba to??? Nakita ko kasi nakasulat "Engines"...  ;D
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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #39 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 12:48 PM »
Parang gasket maker din ba to??? Nakita ko kasi nakasulat "Engines"...  ;D

nope hindi siya silicone type, gamit sa mga turnilyo ng engines para di lumuwag due to vibrations...

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #40 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 12:52 PM »
nope hindi siya silicone type, gamit sa mga turnilyo ng engines para di lumuwag due to vibrations...

Ahhh i see. Pero hindi naman mahirap tanggalin yung screw when its time to remove na? Parang pang hold lang sya para hindi aalog-alog??? Mukang pede siguro sa screws ng pinto sasakyan para matanggal yung ingit?
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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #41 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 01:08 PM »
Ahhh i see. Pero hindi naman mahirap tanggalin yung screw when its time to remove na? Parang pang hold lang sya para hindi aalog-alog??? Mukang pede siguro sa screws ng pinto sasakyan para matanggal yung ingit?

Brake fluid lang katapat pangtanggal... Yup para di makalas basta-basta ang screws... Naku lubricant naman ang kailangan nun sa pinto ng oto eh, pag para dun use silicone grease - 50 pesos lang per tube sa suking auto supply...

Iba yun yun silicon grease na gamit sa processors at transistors ha! Silicone grease yun sa auto supply.  ;D

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #42 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 01:44 PM »
meron plantsa na Class D?  :D
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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #43 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 01:46 PM »
no no no. hindi po loss yung unused wattage. a 500w avr will only consume around 15-20 watts on top of the load. so if the 110v amp consumes 400 watts, the total consumption is only 420 watts.
markrenz, I agree> However, my explanation is not actually a direct loss but on top of the efficiency loss. Either 5 watts or 20 watts still a loss.
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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #44 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 01:50 PM »
fyi: yun threadlocker red paps ha... hindi yun contact glue....  ;D



madami sa Avenida (5th or 6th ave) or sa Binondo... di pa ako nakakita sa ACE niyan eh...



I just use the 262 enough strength for electronic goodies. Masyado ng matigas yang 271 hirap ng tanggalin pang auto na yan master;D
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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #45 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 02:24 PM »
fyi: yun threadlocker red paps ha... hindi yun contact glue....  ;D



madami sa Avenida (5th or 6th ave) or sa Binondo... di pa ako nakakita sa ACE niyan eh...


Merun kami nyan master Jojo, color red paste gamit namin sa mga machine screw...
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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #46 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 04:26 PM »
OT & Newbie question lang mga master..... Merun ako Maldol avr with 1.5Kv (220-110-&100Vac output), and i used 100vac for my vintage (420w-unit) int amp but every time na power On ko yun amp eh merun ako naririnig na "TUG" sound pero iba naman tunog nya kung nag swing yun wifer ng servo...

I have the same experience brader, me "thug" yung reciever pg power on ko using the omni 1500 watt avr, when i used the STAC 1000 watt avr nawala. Both are servo type.
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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #47 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 04:50 PM »

I have the same experience brader, me "thug" yung reciever pg power on ko using the omni 1500 watt avr, when i used the STAC 1000 watt avr nawala. Both are servo type.
 :)

Yung samwon ko tumutunog din pag on ng AMP, pero parang hindi naman thug, parang ramdam ko lang umikot bigla yung servo. Pero dahil nilipat ko na yung servo avr ko, at pinalitan ko ng convertional avr, wala ng tunog hehe! Hindi ko nga lang sure kung magkakaproblema ako in the future dahil hindi servo yung gamit ko.  :D
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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #48 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 05:28 PM »
Yung samwon ko tumutunog din pag on ng AMP, pero parang hindi naman thug, parang ramdam ko lang umikot bigla yung servo. Pero dahil nilipat ko na yung servo avr ko, at pinalitan ko ng convertional avr, wala ng tunog hehe! Hindi ko nga lang sure kung magkakaproblema ako in the future dahil hindi servo yung gamit ko.  :D

back to servo ka na para may peace of mind.  ;)

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #49 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 06:02 PM »
makapag-invest nga sa higher avr para lang cgurado, currently just using maldol 500w (naka-plug ay pana 42c10, samsung bd player at denon avr1912)

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #50 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 06:25 PM »
makapag-invest nga sa higher avr para lang cgurado, currently just using maldol 500w (naka-plug ay pana 42c10, samsung bd player at denon avr1912)

ilang watts ang 1912? kailangan mo nga magupgrade.  :)

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #51 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 08:27 PM »
wala kayo sa lolo ko!  :D


mali mali... wala kayo sa CDR king avr ko... walang "thug" yun pag power ON ng rxv1700 ko...  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

maluluwag ang mga turnilyo at maninipis ang kaha ng mga regulators ngayon kaya ganun... lagyan ng deadening material para mawala...



I just use the 262 enough strength for electronic goodies. Masyado ng matigas yang 271 hirap ng tanggalin pang auto na yan master;D

pwede din 262, pero 271 is best for my projects since they're built to last so no worries unscrewing them...  ;D



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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #52 on: Aug 14, 2012 at 08:34 PM »
ilang watts ang 1912? kailangan mo nga magupgrade.  :)
im not sure but definitely i would have to check

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #53 on: Aug 15, 2012 at 09:02 AM »
yung mga naka 220V po ba naka avr din? or surge protect (tama ba term ko?)  ;D

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #54 on: Aug 15, 2012 at 09:07 AM »
yung mga naka 220V po ba naka avr din? or surge protect (tama ba term ko?)  ;D


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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #55 on: Aug 15, 2012 at 09:37 AM »
ahh so parang 220V + AVR
same lng po ng 110V + AVR? in terms of power consumption or mas maaksaya prin  sa kuryente si 110v + avr?

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #56 on: Aug 15, 2012 at 11:17 AM »
OT & Newbie question lang mga master..... Merun ako Maldol avr with 1.5Kv (220-110-&100Vac output), and i used 100vac for my vintage (420w-unit) int amp but every time na power On ko yun amp eh merun ako naririnig na "TUG" sound pero iba naman tunog nya kung nag swing yun wifer ng servo...

hindi ba sa amp un?

my 5000w avr consumes 10w with nothing plugged in to it

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #57 on: Aug 15, 2012 at 10:26 PM »
ahh so parang 220V + AVR
same lng po ng 110V + AVR? in terms of power consumption or mas maaksaya prin  sa kuryente si 110v + avr?

Less efficient ang takbo ng AVR pag sa 110V tap ka kukuha dahil mahaba na ang dinaan nya sa coil. Pero hindi naman siguro kalakihan ang difference.

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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #58 on: Aug 16, 2012 at 09:07 AM »
hindi ba sa amp un?


Hindi sa amp ko bro kasi i-hook ko din si vintage amp ko sa 500w step down transpo eh wala naman ako narinig na "Thug" sounds during power On...


wala kayo sa lolo ko!  :D


mali mali... wala kayo sa CDR king avr ko... walang "thug" yun pag power ON ng rxv1700 ko...  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

maluluwag ang mga turnilyo at maninipis ang kaha ng mga regulators ngayon kaya ganun... lagyan ng deadening material para mawala...


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Re: disadvantages of 110v AVR
« Reply #59 on: Aug 16, 2012 at 09:12 AM »
Master, Bullet Question: Yung mga Step down transpormer ba prone din sa voltage surge spike? ::) ???
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