Topic: Plasma Break-in (1st impression done)

[Carlo777]

A lot of PM's I get/got these past years, is about the age old question of whether or not a plasma should go thru what we call as the "break-in" period. Some say, it gives off  better image retention management and some even go as far as to say picture quality improves(duh?).

Now, to be honest, I've never really followed these procedures to the letter, so I can't intelligently answer them for you...now.

But, I'll do a little experiment and we'll see, or I'll see for myself, if these claims are indeed true and if they do hold enough oil to fry your chicken.

A new Panasonic plasma will be used and it will go thru a very rigorous break-in procedure.

1)TV programs will be set to ZOOM 3 for the 1st 100 hours to eliminate Chanel logos
2)No video games will be played for the 1st 100 hours/No letter bars will be displayed as well.
3)Settings will be kept to a bare 50% for contrast and brightness, long and short, the "Cinema" mode will be used with no alterations
4)All enhancements like "color management", "vivid color" will be kept off.
5)A break-in slide with those flashy colors will be used as extensively as possible.

The experiment will entail a 10 hours a day time frame and will end 10 days after it's starts to fill the 100 hours requirement.

A big thank you to Sights and Sounds for allowing us to go forward with this experiment.

[Wildfire™]

Nice experiment, Im planning to get plasma and this will be very beneficial

keep us posted

[chris_santo]

I think i was able to break in my plasma very well. Although i've played xbox with it, i never played the same game for more than an hour. My observation after breaking in is that ir goes away quicker. As in 1-2 seconds nalang unlike before na it may take 1-2mins of playback. Lalo sa black bars, its almost instant unlike before na i notice that it slowly fades.

With that said, i really recommend plasma users break in their tvs. What i did to speed it up is to leave it with break in images in SD card and run slide shows when you're at work. That makes it 10 hours a day. Do it for 10 days and you'll be done before you know it.

For me mga more than 200 hours ko na ata na break in yung x20 ko so almost none existent na yung ir.

[Carlo777]

I think i was able to break in my plasma very well. Although i've played xbox with it, i never played the same game for more than an hour. My observation after breaking in is that ir goes away quicker. As in 1-2 seconds nalang unlike before na it may take 1-2mins of playback. Lalo sa black bars, its almost instant unlike before na i notice that it slowly fades.

With that said, i really recommend plasma users break in their tvs. What i did to speed it up is to leave it with break in images in SD card and run slide shows when you're at work. That makes it 10 hours a day. Do it for 10 days and you'll be done before you know it.

For me mga more than 200 hours ko na ata na break in yung x20 ko so almost none existent na yung ir.

That's great Chris! Hope I get the same results buddy By the way, did you zoom the channel logo's as well?

[chris_santo]

Thanks carlo. Nope i don't zoom the tv to get rid of the logo. I just set the tv at 50% contrast and change the channel every now and then. If i dont want to change the channel i just change the aspect ratio from 'just' to 4:3 with white bars instead of black.

Its really worth it, even the picture quality hasnt really improved like others claim but those ir have really became a non-issue for me so its good enough.

[Carlo777]

Thanks carlo. Nope i don't zoom the tv to get rid of the logo. I just set the tv at 50% contrast and change the channel every now and then. If i dont want to change the channel i just change the aspect ratio from 'just' to 4:3 with white bars instead of black.

Its really worth it, even the picture quality hasnt really improved like others claim but those ir have really became a non-issue for me so its good enough.

Thanks for the tip Chris, I'll zoom the logo just for the heck of the experiment. Maybe I'll get a nice porn and zoom it with a loop for a hundred hours hahahaha

[chris_santo]

Thats a good break in. Just wish your video wouldnt pause coz you wouldn't want a burned image from a porn clip. Nakakahiya papalitan yun if ever.

[JojoD818]

Thats a good break in. Just wish your video wouldnt pause coz you wouldn't want a burned image from a porn clip. Nakakahiya papalitan yun if ever.

LOL!

[comitatus]

we have a G11 plasma (Asian ver of the G10) and we do exp. image retention problems after a couple of hours of game play but it goes away naman.

there was one time...my hubby forumer Carlo777 left a smut video menu on his plasma for hours (huli!!!) and the images lingered for a day even after desparate attempts by him to remove it kaagad. bottom line sir...it's a part of the plasma exp. but mawawala din naman po yun

that won't be a first time for carlo if ever

my naughty little penguin

[reynold]

my naughty little penguin

Sweeeeettt

[Inglip]

Saw this link a while ago.
Plasma TV “Burn-In”: Fact or Myth?

[babed95]

Thats a good break in. Just wish your video wouldnt pause coz you wouldn't want a burned image from a porn clip. Nakakahiya papalitan yun if ever.

natawa rin ako dito ah ahahahah!

[comitatus]

Sweeeeettt

that's how a wife should be...keeping things exciting

Thats a good break in. Just wish your video wouldnt pause coz you wouldn't want a burned image from a porn clip. Nakakahiya papalitan yun if ever.

Nahuli ko na si carlo sa porn...hehehe ok lang boys will be boys

Day 1 for the plasma break-in was done yesterday for 10 hours.

[jerix]

Hi Ma'am Comitatus - I am also presently breaking-in my plasma. Will it be ok if contrast is a little bit raised to 70 or 80 rather than pegging it to 50? Thanks

[chris_santo]

Hi Ma'am Comitatus - I am also presently breaking-in my plasma. Will it be ok if contrast is a little bit raised to 70 or 80 rather than pegging it to 50? Thanks

full screen and without still images, yes. In fact the break in period will be shorter if you run the downloaded break in slides with higher contrast.

For more info, search articles from the net.

[jerix]

full screen and without still images, yes. In fact the break in period will be shorter if you run the downloaded break in slides with higher contrast.

For more info, search articles from the net.

Yeah, thanks Chris! from time to time I am using the break-in slides but on time only that I am home.  My kids do now want to see just the slides rolling so I am loading it with various media files na lang kahit na napanood na nila. will that be okay too?

[comitatus]

Hi Ma'am Comitatus - I am also presently breaking-in my plasma. Will it be ok if contrast is a little bit raised to 70 or 80 rather than pegging it to 50? Thanks

actually lowering the contrast to about 50% is the most important aspect of the break-in. so i'd rather keep it there muna. 100 hours lang naman...mabilis lang yan!

drop the "ma'am" ha...i fyl so old

[chris_santo]

Yeah, thanks Chris! from time to time I am using the break-in slides but on time only that I am home.  My kids do now want to see just the slides rolling so I am loading it with various media files na lang kahit na napanood na nila. will that be okay too?

if you'll be watching regular content 50% will be safe. When displaying break in slides, i think mas ok ang higher contrast kasi even naman ang image plus i believe it matures the posphors faster.

[jerix]

actually lowering the contrast to about 50% is the most important aspect of the break-in. so i'd rather keep it there muna. 100 hours lang naman...mabilis lang yan!

drop the "ma'am" ha...i fyl so old

Ah ok -- Thanks sis!!

[insomnia]

my two cents worth...  image retention will always be a problem as long as the display is phospor based.  any claim otherwise is just outright lie. having used plasma tvs of varying sizes and brands, all experience the same problem of IR depending how you use them.  However, what you need to avoid is the "burn in".  From my experience, as long as you dont use it as a computer monitor, you should be ok.  Everyday normal usage will not cause a "burn in" whrere in a ghostly image is forever imprinted on the monitor. 

I'm currently using a 65' panasonic plasma tv for over a month now with no break in process.  and its doing quite well.

 

 

[mars]

I was at SM Appliance Davao yesterday and saw LG's 50PK550R plasma TV. Sabi nung LG guy dun na di na daw kailangan ibreak-in. Yun daw sabi ng boss nya kasi "burn-in proof" na daw yung bagong units nila. According to him, the unit they have on display has been running for almost 4 months na sa "vivid" setting. Wala naman burn-in or IR issues daw so far. Wala pa rin daw complaints sa mga naging customers niya. Totoo kaya ito? Would there be a risk of a shorter lifespan with this practice of non-break-in?

[johnrider999]

I did my break-in for total of 100 hours using dvd player which i set to repeat play. I used cinema setting with 50% contrast and brightness, and orbiter on. After that sinubukan ko manood ng tv channel with logo for an hour. I discovered na nagka IR pa rin pero mabilis naman nawala nung nilipat ko ng ibang channel . Balak kung paabotin ng 200 hours on vivid setting para mapabilis ang phospor aging and after that i will let my kids play with their video games. btw, im using lg 42pj250, 2010 model.

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[ojokik]

I was at SM Appliance Davao yesterday and saw LG's 50PK550R plasma TV. Sabi nung LG guy dun na di na daw kailangan ibreak-in. Yun daw sabi ng boss nya kasi "burn-in proof" na daw yung bagong units nila. According to him, the unit they have on display has been running for almost 4 months na sa "vivid" setting. Wala naman burn-in or IR issues daw so far. Wala pa rin daw complaints sa mga naging customers niya. Totoo kaya ito? Would there be a risk of a shorter lifespan with this practice of non-break-in?

Don't believe them bro, I have tested a lot of their PK550R units on display sa SM Bicutan, Makati, Rockwell and Mega-mall using v120 color slides, ang daming IR's na galing sa mga demo discs and mga brand logos nila. Mostly di na kayang ma color wash at na naiwan na sa screen.  I have a PK550R and meron talagang IR once maiwan mo ng matagal ang mga logos but this can be remedied by using color wash every few minutes para sa mga “New” units. Break-in as per my experience reduces the IR's once you get over the 200hr period tapos like what Chris said above, mga 1-2 secs na lang kadali ma wash off.

Btw, you can download the plasma break-in v120.1.zip http://www.filecrop.com/plasma-panasonic.html then save to a USB flash drive then load at the back-left-side of the TV. Try mo yan bro, run each slide dun sa display tv nila, I’m sure meron kang makikitang mga IR’s.

[mars]

Thanks bro. Actually ang pumasok sa isip ko nung sinabi nya yun is "too good to be true." Kung sabagay, kahit masira yung display unit nila, wala namang magrereklamo.

Pinag-iisipan ko kasi ngayon is kumuha ng either LG 47LE5500 (LED) or 50PK550R (plasma). I like the sharpness kasi ng LED, pero I'm sure, pagdating sa bedroom, babawasan ko rin ang settings nun so it won't be as "stunning" as the showroom display. Baka di na rin malayo ang pq sa plasma pag ganun. My wife naman likes the plasma mainly because of the size and "malamig daw sa mata." Sabi nya, nahilo daw sya katitingin sa LED.

Maybe I'll ask the LG guy to downgrade the LED settings to simulate bedroom conditions and use the vivid setting sa plasma. Baka di naman gaano ang magiging difference sa pq.

Kung yung plasma ang kukunin ko, I still plan to break it in to be on the safe side. After all, lahat ng experts nagsasabi na kailangan ng break-in. Yung LG guy was the first person who told me na hindi na kailangan. I already downloaded the plasma break-in slide show to my usb drive. Dalhin ko yun doon before I make my final decision of which model to purchase.

With so many satisfied LE5500 and PK550R owners here, I think I won't go wrong whichever model I choose.

[dpdelacruz]

Yung Panasonic V20 ko na break-in ko din siya for 150 to 200 hours gamit yung slides at procedure na nabasa ko sa AVSForums pero sakin wala naman syang epekto. Nung nabili ko naman kasi yung TV mabilis talaga mag ka IR halibawa nag browse ako ng video files sa NMT ko sigurado mag IR na yun. Pero pag nanood na ako ng movie mawawala na sya.

Pero halibawa nag laro ako sa PS3 for for 2 hours sigurado yung IR na galing sa static na HUD hindi sya basta mawawala ng normal movie viewing lang kahit na dalawang movie na napanood ko. Para matangal ng mabilis yun kailangan ko i run uli yung slides ko for 15 hours at i sasagad na yung contrast nun to 100 para matangal sya. Kaya sa tingin ko hindi din ganun ka epektibo yung break-in siguro sa mga lumang plasma ok sya pero sa mga bagong Plasma hindi na kailangan

[johnrider999]

Btw, you can download the plasma break-in v120.1.zip http://www.filecrop.com/plasma-panasonic.html then save to a USB flash drive then load at the back-left-side of the TV. Try mo yan bro, run each slide dun sa display tv nila, I’m sure meron kang makikitang mga IR’s.

sir , hindi ko madownload. can u share it how?sorry im not good in IT Thanks

[jerix]

Issue ko lang sa break-in slide --naka-ON yung TV wala ka namang magandang pinapanood puro kulay lang, sayang sa KURYENTE

[Carlo777]

My initial take:

I've been with plasma since the PV70 and have had units that encompass the 2007 era up to the V20.

My observation/s:

1)Image retention will always be a part of the plasma experience, the same way that screen uniformity and the lack thereof of LCD is a part of the LCD experience.
-All my plasma units have had I.R, there was no way for me to avoid it.
-I've had one plasma that I did a "measure" (not as strict as the experiment) of break in and it was the PV80, however, it still induced image retention after just 2 hours of gaming. Of course, the image washed away, but it was not as quick as I hoped it would be. Will performing a more thorough break-in prevent that? There is no way for me to know unless, I can get a brand new PV80.
2)Some plasma models are a bit tougher on the I.R side, as they seem to take in more images without coughing up a retention immediately. This was the C10, and do note: I used the C10 out of the box without any form of "break-in".

I'm glad ,Vic of Sights and Sounds, delivered a brand new V20, I can use as a stage point. My 1st V20 did not go thru a break-in. This second one will go thru a very strict break-in and from there...I'll see if:

-It will be more resistant to "I.R" than the 1st one. Because, if there is no change at all, and the image retention resiliency is just as like the 1st one I had, then it will be very hard for me to recommend a "break-in". At Least for this model.

For the record: I don't beleive plasma is already bullet proff when it comes to permanent burn-in. Sure, it will really take a tremendous, and almost deliberate act of wanton descruction to induce the permanent scar (which I know most of you guys will not perform) but I've seen a 2008 plasma that is already burnt with pc game images.

We'll check back after the test.

[dpdelacruz]

add ko lang itong nabasa ko dati http://www.digitalversus.com/plasma-screen-subjection-burning-article-730.html gamit nila panasonic V10

[Carlo777]

add ko lang itong nabasa ko dati http://www.digitalversus.com/plasma-screen-subjection-burning-article-730.html gamit nila panasonic V10

Nice read tsip!