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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #30 on: Aug 08, 2012 at 10:24 AM »
Thanks. I'm pretty sure they'd sell for even less kung cash purchase (or at least add free items like an OEM copy of Windows).

Depending on specs and configuration, a newer notebook is likely to consume even less (especially those running ULV components).

i'd keep these in mind when i shop for a new notebook soon. ty

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #31 on: Aug 09, 2012 at 12:50 PM »
i'd keep these in mind when i shop for a new notebook soon. ty

Ultrabooks and Ultrathins typically have low power components (to allow them to use smaller heatsinks and get decent runtime from small batteries), if you're willing to pay for the price difference.
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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #32 on: Aug 12, 2012 at 05:31 PM »
learn a lot from this thread ...thanks sir stagea i've got the almost all the answers of all my questions on how to use laptop as the source

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #33 on: Aug 31, 2012 at 07:17 AM »
Q lang mga sirs. Same lang ba ang quality if i use the 3.5mm-optical cable vs a usb dac?

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #34 on: Aug 31, 2012 at 07:41 AM »
Q lang mga sirs. Same lang ba ang quality if i use the 3.5mm-optical cable vs a usb dac?

No, if you use USB DAC, it will process and convert to analog thus the quality of sound will depend on the USB DAC.

If you use 3.5mm Optical, the DAC of the receiver will be the one to convert to ANALOG, thus the sound will be processed solely by the DAC of the receiver, the quality of sound will always depend of the quality of the Receiver's DAC (plus of course other components of the Receiver)

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #35 on: Sep 01, 2012 at 05:00 AM »
I got a sony CDP, a dual DAC, lens is not working, is there a possibility to convert this as a DAC to my laptop? it has no inputs other than a 4 pin system control input :)

just a wild thought: CDPs uses multiple DACs, what happen if you use two DACs(say two musiland 01) for your laptop? :D :D will it give a better sound than a single DAC?

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #36 on: Sep 01, 2012 at 05:09 AM »
I got a sony CDP, a dual DAC, lens is not working, is there a possibility to convert this as a DAC to my laptop? it has no inputs other than a 4 pin system control input :)

just a wild thought: CDPs uses multiple DACs, what happen if you use two DACs(say two musiland 01) for your laptop? :D :D will it give a better sound than a single DAC?



Whether a DAC uses a single D/A chip or multiple D/A chips it is still highly dependent on implementation - theoretically multiple D/A chips should handle Digital to Analog conversion more accurately.

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #37 on: Sep 01, 2012 at 05:19 AM »
Whether a DAC uses a single D/A chip or multiple D/A chips it is still highly dependent on implementation - theoretically multiple D/A chips should handle Digital to Analog conversion more accurately.
thanks bro rascal101, planning to go this route(laptop as music source) kasi e :D ;D
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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #38 on: Sep 01, 2012 at 07:27 AM »
just a wild thought: CDPs uses multiple DACs, what happen if you use two DACs(say two musiland 01) for your laptop? :D :D will it give a better sound than a single DAC?

It doesn't quite work that way. The use of two dac chips is usually for differential mode operation, and that usually helps. Running two stereo DACs at the same time that are not operating in differential mode does not equate to the same effect (not to mention that you may have difficulty feeding data to both at the same time because of software limitations, especially when running them off USB).

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #39 on: Sep 01, 2012 at 07:39 AM »
It doesn't quite work that way. The use of two dac chips is usually for differential mode operation, and that usually helps. Running two stereo DACs at the same time that are not operating in differential mode does not equate to the same effect (not to mention that you may have difficulty feeding data to both at the same time because of software limitations, especially when running them off USB).


thanks sir stagea. will you recommend low priced DACs? say, DACs from CDR-king
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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #40 on: Sep 01, 2012 at 07:53 AM »
Low priced DACs with decent sound output that I may recommend are:
Superpro 707
Musiland 01US
HRT Streamer II

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #41 on: Sep 01, 2012 at 08:14 AM »
Low priced DACs with decent sound output that I may recommend are:
Superpro 707
Musiland 01US
HRT Streamer II

thanks sir JoeyGS, saan po available ang mga ito?
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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #42 on: Sep 01, 2012 at 09:15 PM »
Locally available yan lahat.

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #43 on: Sep 02, 2012 at 08:09 AM »
+1 hrt music streamer II  ;D
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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #44 on: Sep 03, 2012 at 11:41 AM »
No, if you use USB DAC, it will process and convert to analog thus the quality of sound will depend on the USB DAC.

If you use 3.5mm Optical, the DAC of the receiver will be the one to convert to ANALOG, thus the sound will be processed solely by the DAC of the receiver, the quality of sound will always depend of the quality of the Receiver's DAC (plus of course other components of the Receiver)

Sir, I am looking for this connection, 3.5 mm jack from laptop to coaxial para maikabit ko sa external DAC. What is your recommendation for this. Thanks
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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #45 on: Sep 03, 2012 at 11:47 AM »
I am not aware if there is such a conversion connection.

As far I am aware of:
3.5mm jack = analog signal
coaxial       = digital signal

So, basically is does not match.

From a laptop, you need to extract digital signal (via usb or optical or coaxial) and then you can feed this into the external DAC with its corresponding digital inputs (via usb or optical or coaxial). These are basic.

Hope this helps.

Sir, I am looking for this connection, 3.5 mm jack from laptop to coaxial para maikabit ko sa external DAC. What is your recommendation for this. Thanks

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #46 on: Sep 03, 2012 at 01:06 PM »
Sir, I am looking for this connection, 3.5 mm jack from laptop to coaxial para maikabit ko sa external DAC. What is your recommendation for this. Thanks

check if your 3.5mm audio out jack is also an optical digital out port (found in some models of macbook pro, acer laptops, i think). so ang magiging connection ay laptop --> optical out port  --> DAC --> pre-amp/amp --> speakers.

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #47 on: Sep 03, 2012 at 02:09 PM »
check if your 3.5mm audio out jack is also an optical digital out port (found in some models of macbook pro, acer laptops, i think). so ang magiging connection ay laptop --> optical out port  --> DAC --> pre-amp/amp --> speakers.

I agree. May mga notebooks with this feature (though there are fewer and fewer of them around). Mini-toslink adapter or cable lang ang kailangan.

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #48 on: Sep 03, 2012 at 03:29 PM »
Oh yes, the mac mini and macbook laptops have this.

BTW, are you using a Mac?

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #49 on: Sep 03, 2012 at 04:29 PM »
Oh yes, the mac mini and macbook laptops have this.

BTW, are you using a Mac?

Hi sir Joey,

Are you directing this question to Beringin or to me?

In case you're asking me, I use both Macs and PCs. I prefer PCs, however.

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #50 on: Sep 03, 2012 at 07:29 PM »
Thanks to all replies. Yes I am using an iMac and according to the manual, the headphone jack is also a digital output.  So I am looking to convert from 3.5mm output to either coaxial or optical input to my external DAC. Thanks

I have seen this from the net, but I don't know if this is commercially available or kung ano pa and options ko.



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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #51 on: Sep 03, 2012 at 07:33 PM »
I agree. May mga notebooks with this feature (though there are fewer and fewer of them around). Mini-toslink adapter or cable lang ang kailangan.

Thanks to all replies. Yes I am using an iMac and according to the manual, the headphone jack is also a digital output.  So I am looking to convert from 3.5mm output to either coaxial or optical input to my external DAC. Thanks

I have seen this from the net, but I don't know if this is commercially available or kung ano pa and options ko.



alam ko that sir anya is selling a mini-toslink adapter and some optical cables. ->http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,133291.0.html
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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #52 on: Sep 03, 2012 at 07:38 PM »
Sorry, I was addressing it to Beringin.

Self tweaking is easier with PC and with tons of information in the Internet.  I think you can improve PCs at a cheaper cost as compared with Macs



Hi sir Joey,

Are you directing this question to Beringin or to me?

In case you're asking me, I use both Macs and PCs. I prefer PCs, however.
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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #53 on: Sep 03, 2012 at 07:42 PM »
+1 with geriboy's recommendation and check out Anya's thread.


Thanks to all replies. Yes I am using an iMac and according to the manual, the headphone jack is also a digital output.  So I am looking to convert from 3.5mm output to either coaxial or optical input to my external DAC. Thanks

I have seen this from the net, but I don't know if this is commercially available or kung ano pa and options ko.





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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #54 on: Sep 03, 2012 at 07:46 PM »
Checked anya's  link.  ;D

Thanks to all for the help.
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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #55 on: Sep 17, 2012 at 06:59 PM »
Great thread.  Thank you and kudos.

I've been using an HP netbook for my audio source drive a Musiland US03.  Sorry I don't remember the model offhand but it is one of the low end ones.  I play some Studio Master material and it copes well enough I think.
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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #56 on: Oct 04, 2012 at 04:54 PM »
How much yung musiland 01? Thanks.

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Re: Converting laptop to music source
« Reply #58 on: Oct 05, 2012 at 07:24 AM »
Thank you sir...