Topic: Dai-ichi Speakers & sub

[hattori_hanzo]

Korek ka dyan hanns!

lintyak ang titibay ng mga drivers nito, ilan amp na nag hum, crackle, thump, oscillating etc ang na test ko pero buhay pa naman. 

I still have the center and surround - even the sub. kaso cannibalized na yun sub dahil I upgraded the LF filters from dai-ichi's passive to a fixed active and also they used a 7294 gainclone for the amp pero pinalitan ko din yun amp. yun sub driver na lang at yun box ang natira na orig pero ayus na ayus pa naman.

it's also true na habang tumatagal ay gumaganda tunog... yan nasa pics sobrang bugbog sa pag testing kasi kaya na break-in. kaya kung gusto nyo pa na mas lalung gumanda ang mga dai-ichi ninyo - bugbugin nyo ng bugbugin... huwag kayo matakot - lifetime warranty yan! 

disclaimer: huwag ako sisihin pag nasira ha. 

Hahaha!

seriously sir ano yung model ng sub mo? mukha nga matibay eh...


Actualy, im looking for a sub, planning to buy, end of this month before leaving. nasa 7 to 8k lang budget ko kaya nag hihintay ako ng magandang sub na magbebenta dito sa B & S section...

[X-®an™]

sige nga mag mini eye ball ang Euros8 owner sa April 13 

Parang gusto kong maki-gulo sa inyo... 

[hattori_hanzo]

Parang gusto kong maki-gulo sa inyo... 

Join nah!!!

[JojoD818]

Hahaha!

seriously sir ano yung model ng sub mo? mukha nga matibay eh...


Actualy, im looking for a sub, planning to buy, end of this month before leaving. nasa 7 to 8k lang budget ko kaya nag hihintay ako ng magandang sub na magbebenta dito sa B & S section...

don't know what model it is pero yan yun kasama sa package nun HT nila dati. meron din ako binili noon na sub sa kanila yun naka push-pull isobaric configuration kaso binenta ko na eh, hindi kasi kami magkasundo. 

ngayon I still have these sub drivers from Dai-Ichi...

2 pcs 1st generation Cyclone 12" sub
2 pcs Targa 12" sub
1 pc Targa 12" sub dual voice coil

balak ko itayo lahat ulit para may party sa bahay. 

[hattori_hanzo]

don't know what model it is pero yan yun kasama sa package nun HT nila dati. meron din ako binili noon na sub sa kanila yun naka push-pull isobaric configuration kaso binenta ko na eh, hindi kasi kami magkasundo. 

ngayon I still have these sub drivers from Dai-Ichi...

2 pcs 1st generation Cyclone 12" sub
2 pcs Targa 12" sub
1 pc Targa 12" sub dual voice coil

balak ko itayo lahat ulit para may party sa bahay. 

sir hataw yan pag na buo lahat, low freq every where hehehe! yan ang tunay na bass non-localization...

baka makabili nadin ako ng sub by this coming april, Im choosing between DTX 6.12 or the Euros 12 sub, dami kasi reviews na maganda ang DTX comapare sa US audio, pero sa Euros sub wala pa ako nababasa...     

[JojoD818]

Imagine yun 12" Cyclone sub ng Dai-Ichi, 1995 ko pa binili yun pair na yun pero hanggang ngayon buhay pa. 

Sa susunod susubok naman ako ng ibang brand ng sub, imported at local para mas exciting.

[leomar]

yamaha rxv-630 pala ang gamit ng daiichi megamall! 

[newbie pa rin]

Guys, Any comments on the PL 100 model ng dai-ichi.
OK ba ito?
Napansin ko kasi mas mataas sensitivity nya compared sa Euros.
Another thing.
Nakalagay kasi sa web 100 watts max - what does this mean?
Ano talaga wattage nya?
Lastly does dai-ichi have different finished on their speakers?
TIA

[hattori_hanzo]

Guys, Any comments on the PL 100 model ng dai-ichi.
OK ba ito?
Napansin ko kasi mas mataas sensitivity nya compared sa Euros.
Another thing.
Nakalagay kasi sa web 100 watts max - what does this mean?
Ano talaga wattage nya?
Lastly does dai-ichi have different finished on their speakers?
TIA

Sir Ive seen and auditioned PL100 being played at spectra makati with AMX tube amp. hataw din sa clarity....

the rating on 100 watts max means the maximum power rating capabilities... you can load a 100Wpc avr into this speakers.

colors can be changed depends on your order. Euros series can be ordered with silver finish...

[X-®an™]

Guys, Any comments on the PL 100 model ng dai-ichi.
OK ba ito?
Napansin ko kasi mas mataas sensitivity nya compared sa Euros.
Another thing.
Nakalagay kasi sa web 100 watts max - what does this mean?
TIA

Bro, kung sa web site ng Dai-1chi mo nakita ang specs... wag mo gaanong pansinin yun.  Based on past experience, di gaanong reliable yung specs na nakalagay dun.

[nerveblocker]

Is the Phoenix Gold Subwoofer driver made by Dai-ichi?  Saan nakakabili nito?

[arthurallanj]

sir hataw yan pag na buo lahat, low freq every where hehehe! yan ang tunay na bass non-localization...

baka makabili nadin ako ng sub by this coming april, Im choosing between DTX 6.12 or the Euros 12 sub, dami kasi reviews na maganda ang DTX comapare sa US audio, pero sa Euros sub wala pa ako nababasa...     

The Euros sub, I think, never really captured that much interest because of the fact that it's a subwoofer with a bandpass enclosure. HT enthusiasts often prefer front firing subs because of better accuracy. Of all the Daiichi subs I am aware of to date, there are only two that I'm eyeing. One is the DTX 4.12 or 4.15 and the other is a new one with the Pro Linear label, I forgot the model though. These are the only front firing subs they seem to offer. I'm recently more interested with the Pro Linear sub since it had a better looking driver than the 4. series of DTX. Although I never really audition it extensively, it seemed to me it would perform better than the DTX 4. series. Physically, the PL driver looked liked it had a much better construction and I tried pushing the cone, it was harder to push than the DTX. The suspension seemed better and the cone material too. But I only had very little time to compare both performance wise.
Now, with the US Audio subs, which are also bandpass subs, are to my knowledge, the most powerful of all Daiichi subs I've heard of. Malakas talaga sya, but at the price of accuracy of course. It's very powerful at it's resonant frequency range but mahina at other frequencies. Audible ang difference in volume. I have this one at home. Hope I helped. 

[hattori_hanzo]

The Euros sub, I think, never really captured that much interest is because of the fact that it's a subwoofer with a bandpass enclosure. HT enthusiasts often prefer front firing subs because of better accuracy. Of all the Daiichi subs I am aware of to date, there are only two that I'm eyeing. One is the DTX 4.12 or 4.15 and the other is a new one with the Pro Linear label, I forgot the model though. These are the only front firing subs they seem to offer. I'm recently more interested with the Pro Linear sub since it had a better looking driver than the 4. series of DTX. Although I never really audition it extensively, it seemed to me it would perform better than the DTX 4. series. Physically, the PL driver looked liked it had a much better construction and I tried pushing the cone, it was harder to push than the DTX. The suspension seemed better and the cone material too. But I only had very little time to compare both performance wise.
Now, with the US Audio subs, which are also bandpass subs, are to my knowledge, the most powerful of all Daiichi subs I've heard off. Malakas talaga sya, but at the price of accuracy of course. It's very powerful at it's resonant frequency range but mahina at other frequencies. Audible ang difference in volume. I have this one at home. Hope I helped. 

Thanks Sir arthurallanj, I'll scratch the Euro sub in my list, I too prefer those front firing than those bandpass front ported ones, before I had the GSX Ganzklar sub which is also a front ported bandpass design. its heavy its powerful but not that accurate, when drived it at a high SPL, it produces turbulant noice coming out from the tubes. and the cooling fan at the ampplate seems to produce noice also.       

I'll try to look for those DTX 4 series, by the way what can you say about the SW150 does it performs well? Im eyeing a 2nd SW150 from the B&S section. anyways I'll try to consider those prolinear subs and US audio subs...

thanks again sir... 

[arthurallanj]

Thanks Sir arthurallanj, I'll scratch the Euro sub in my list, I too prefer those front firing than those bandpass front ported ones, before I had the GSX Ganzklar sub which is also a front ported bandpass design. its heavy its powerful but not that accurate, when drived it at a high SPL, it produces turbulant noice coming out from the tubes. and the cooling fan at the ampplate seems to produce noice also.       

I'll try to look for those DTX 4 series, by the way what can you say about the SW150 does it performs well? Im eyeing a 2nd SW150 from the B&S section. anyways I'll try to consider those prolinear subs and US audio subs...

thanks again sir... 

Glad to help, bro. Sorry but I've never listened to the SW150. I think there's a thread here somewhere about it. I think you should consider the DTX and Prolinear subs. THe USAudio may be powerful but still response is irregular. 

[hattori_hanzo]

Glad to help, bro. Sorry but I've never listened to the SW150. I think there's a thread here somewhere about it. I think you should consider the DTX and Prolinear subs. THe USAudio may be powerful but still response is irregular. 

Thanks sir, ill look for the SW150 thread...

BTW is there several models of prolinear subs?

Thanks...   

[arthurallanj]

Thanks sir, ill look for the SW150 thread...

BTW is there several models of prolinear subs?

Thanks...   

Yup, I think there are a couple. But the one that I saw that had impressive looks was a 12-incher front-firing sub. The cone and the enclosure had a silver-gray color. I was impressed because the driver looked way better than the DTX 4.12's. The port was also located at the bottom of the sub. 

[hattori_hanzo]

Yup, I think there are a couple. But the one that I saw that had impressive looks was a 12-incher front-firing sub. The cone and the enclosure had a silver-gray color. I was impressed because the driver looked way better than the DTX 4.12's. The port was also located at the bottom of the sub. 

Thanks sir ill try to audition those PL subs this weekend...

sana may credible specs sa net about this PL subs... 

[Lawin]

Hi guys...

I will soon part with my Daichi Sub. Nahihinaan ako sa bass ng Euros'8 na towers, paano kaya pwede para lumakas yun?

I removed the speakers and found that each speaker ay separated pala ng mdf board at puno ng fiberglass ang luob. Yung sa baba may 'port' ay puno ng fiberglass din, kung alisin ko iyun... makakatulong ba para lumakas ang bass or medyo titigas lang ?

Yung wires sa loob parang manipis pa sa gauge 16.

Appreciate your comments and advise... tia!

[arthurallanj]

Hi guys...

I will soon part with my Daichi Sub. Nahihinaan ako sa bass ng Euros'8 na towers, paano kaya pwede para lumakas yun?

I removed the speakers and found that each speaker ay separated pala ng mdf board at puno ng fiberglass ang luob. Yung sa baba may 'port' ay puno ng fiberglass din, kung alisin ko iyun... makakatulong ba para lumakas ang bass or medyo titigas lang ?

Yung wires sa loob parang manipis pa sa gauge 16.

Appreciate your comments and advise... tia!

Hi bro. What amp do you use anyway? There have been many occasions, especially at night that I listen to them without a sub and during those times I'd mistake my sub to be turned on when in fact they're not after I've checked again. 

[JojoD818]

maybe Lawin prefers his bass a lot stronger than you do arthur. or maybe your room is far different from his?

[Lawin]

Hi Bro arthurallanj!
  I'm using yamaha 750. I'm selling my euro sub dahil baka makapagpabile ako velodyne CHT12R na sub sa UAE (mas mura kasi). Anyway, naninipisan ako sa bass ng Euros 8 towers ko, specially when I try to compare it dun sa ibang towers at Daichi Mega Mall showroom. Pag nilagay ko volume sa around -20db medyo malakas na tunog pero manipis pa rin bass (even with bass heavy music)

Maybe bro jojod818 is correct, I have a bigger room nasa sala kasi na around 4 x 9 meters. Distance nya from the wall ay around 1.5 feet.

Nag try kasi ako magplay ng walang sub.... bitin talaga, kaya gusto medyo lumakas sya. May epeckto ba speaker wires? I'm using shielded na wires (gamit namin sa mga computer installations, 3 pairs of gauge#14, tapos pinagsama-sama ko for + and - speaker connection).

[arthurallanj]

Well, your room is a bit bigger than mine. It has been mentioned in some other thread that the Euros 8's bass sounds better at the showroom but bought products were apparently less bassy. The later models daw were inferior to the older ones but, we may never know. Also try tinkering with your bass settings on your amp. Music has been reputed as Yamaha's weak point. 

[hattori_hanzo]

need help!

Im about to change the driver of my DTX 4.15 subwoofer. if ever I would change the driver will it perform better. need anybody's advice....

TIA 

[synchro_01]

need help!

Im about to change the driver of my DTX 4.15 subwoofer. if ever I would change the driver will it perform better. need anybody's advice....

TIA 

its gonna be a hit and miss thing if you do change the driver.  good subsystems are usually designed the other way around meaning manufactuers/speaker makers etc design the box according to the specs of the driver.....what you are trying to do in this case is entirely the opposite which is finding a sub driver that will mate with the dimensions of your existing box. one miss and its gonna be costly.

[hattori_hanzo]

its gonna be a hit and miss thing if you do change the driver.  good subsystems are usually designed the other way around meaning manufactuers/speaker makers etc design the box according to the specs of the driver.....what you are trying to do in this case is entirely the opposite which is finding a sub driver that will mate with the dimensions of your existing box. one miss and its gonna be costly.

thanks sir, sayang im opt to buy the JBL GTO series sub drivers pa naman, but the recommended box dimensions for that sub driver is closely to what my existing DTX box, pero yung mga mahirap mag gamble... hmm ano kayang better to do?
  

[JojoD818]

how much is the JBL sub?

benta mo na lang ulit yun JBL driver pag hindi tumama sa dtx box mo. 

[hattori_hanzo]

how much is the JBL sub?

benta mo na lang ulit yun JBL driver pag hindi tumama sa dtx box mo. 

nasa 5k lang sir, yung size 15" mukhang sakto naman yung mounting screws at frame. just dont know kung mag fufunction siya ng maganda using the existing box and sub amp plate ng DTX...   

[Toquero]

nasa 5k lang sir, yung size 15" mukhang sakto naman yung mounting screws at frame. just dont know kung mag fufunction siya ng maganda using the existing box and sub amp plate ng DTX...   

Maybe I could help you decide. If you can give me the external dimensions of your DTX sub and port flow dimensions including its tube length, I could tell you if you're on the right track. Dalawa kasi model ang pwedeng pagpilian niyan. Yung GTO or Power series. The worse thing na pwedeng mangyari kasi diyan is yung sub magkaroon ng frequency peak but it can be corrected into some extent like decreasing the port length or adding fiber fill. In my experience kasi sa subwoofer building.Di nagkakalayo ang box dimension recommendations ng bawat sub driver manufacturer. Ang paguusapan na lang niyan ay kung gaanong kababa yung frequency na kaya niyang iproduce. Almost all car subwoofer drivers stable sa 40Hz frequency more musical kasi ito. 
Just my 2 cents.

[hattori_hanzo]

Maybe I could help you decide. If you can give me the external dimensions of your DTX sub and port flow dimensions including its tube length, I could tell you if you're on the right track. Dalawa kasi model ang pwedeng pagpilian niyan. Yung GTO or Power series. The worse thing na pwedeng mangyari kasi diyan is yung sub magkaroon ng frequency peak but it can be corrected into some extent like decreasing the port length or adding fiber fill. In my experience kasi sa subwoofer building.Di nagkakalayo ang box dimension recommendations ng bawat sub driver manufacturer. Ang paguusapan na lang niyan ay kung gaanong kababa yung frequency na kaya niyang iproduce. Almost all car subwoofer drivers stable sa 40Hz frequency more musical kasi ito. 
Just my 2 cents.

Thanks sir, hope you can help me, heres the DTX 4.15 BOX specs and dimension info:

Cabinet: MDF
Enclosure type: Front Firing Vented Box (4" flare port hole and 10" long)
Size: (H) 23.75" X (W) 18.25 X (D) 16.5



Thanks for your kind help sir...

 

 

[Toquero]

Thanks sir, hope you can help me, heres the DTX 4.15 BOX specs and dimension info:

Cabinet: MDF
Enclosure type: Front Firing Vented Box (4" flare port hole and 10" long)
Size: (H) 23.75" X (W) 18.25 X (D) 16.5



Thanks for your kind help sir...

 
 

Well, based on my software (bassbox pro)and on my first assumption, standard yung box dimensions niya for a 15" subwoofer driver. Maganda yung graph yung lumabas flat yung response niya pero cguro kung sa actual may kaunting  descripancy because of inherent room modes pero over all ok. Existing box itself was tuned @ 28 Hz.. not bad.. basta 4 ohms (series connection ng voice coils ng driver ha... ). Good luck.....