Author Topic: Receiver-Speaker Matching (Read 34336 times)

barrister · « **on:** Nov 26, 2012 at 05:22 PM »

We need a thread like this for easy reference.

I'm no longer in the market for speakers, since I've already ordered Wharfe Diamond 10s, but I noticed that it's pretty tedious to have to search speaker and amp threads to get answers for a receiver-speaker match question.

Posters, don't worry about conflicting opinions, since that's expected. Differences in opinion will come from differences in preference. But unpredictable differences of opinion will probably come from differences in room acoustics. Bahala na yung reader mag analyze at mag conclude.

What I have in mind is the convenience of having one go-to thread where it's easier to compare and analyze, rather than having to spend hours searching different threads.

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I have a Yamaha 700 series receiver, which used to be paired with Diamond 9s. Loved the sound, but decided to sell the speakers after I noticed 3 broken grille pegs.

My buyer has a Pio 521. Sabi ko, Yamaha would be the best match, but Pioneer would also be good. My comment was based on my recollection of old posts with the same comment. I've never sampled the combination before.

First question: Was I correct in saying that Pio is good for Wharfe Diamond 9.5?

Timithekid · « **Reply #1 on:** Nov 26, 2012 at 05:26 PM »

^yes pioneer and wharfdale is an excellent match.

barrister · « **Reply #2 on:** Nov 26, 2012 at 05:28 PM »

Ay salamat. That's a relief, really.

Worried kasi ako -- kung mali ang opinion ko, baka isipin ng buyer na in bad faith ako, at binola ko lang siya para lang makabenta ako ...

Timithekid · « **Reply #3 on:** Nov 26, 2012 at 05:30 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:28 PM

Ay salamat. That's a relief, really.

Worried kasi ako -- kung mali ang opinion ko, baka isipin ng buyer na in bad faith ako, at binola ko lang siya para lang makabenta ako ...

Actually dalawa na kaming nakatry atty. si derick (raider125jeigh) also shares the same opinion.

barrister · « **Reply #4 on:** Nov 26, 2012 at 05:32 PM »

Ayus!

At least pag hindi niya nagustuhan, wala sa akin ang sisi...

45caliber · « **Reply #5 on:** Nov 26, 2012 at 07:01 PM »

what if denon-wharfedale?

raider125jeigh · « **Reply #6 on:** Nov 26, 2012 at 07:10 PM »

onkyo - Polk
Wharf - Pioneer

Onkyo warm to nuetral same with marantz
Yamaha a bit bright
Pioneer a bit bright

DENON havent have one..

most of the time natame naman ng mga aud,mcacc at ypao ung ibang pairing..

ATJr. · « **Reply #7 on:** Nov 26, 2012 at 07:12 PM »

Quote from: Timithekid on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:26 PM

^yes pioneer and wharfdale is an excellent match.

suggestion lang, anong model ng pioneer? ano naman ang sensitivity ng Wharfedale? kung maibibigay ang mga info na ito, merong basis for comparison....

in my case, i have a Studio ACoustics floorstanders with a sensitivity of 90db, i was able to drive it with a 6LU8 12 watter tube amp, likewise with an EL34 pp amp of 35 watts per channel, the speaker was rated for 100 watts but i do not give much significance to the speaker wattage.....

raider125jeigh · « **Reply #8 on:** Nov 26, 2012 at 07:34 PM »

im not too technical with the sensitivity and all that stuff
most wharf are 86db warm sounding and great synergy with Pioneer receivers
mostly the powerful one..
i tried pio 1021 with wharf 9series... basing this by experience

ATJr. · « **Reply #9 on:** Nov 26, 2012 at 08:46 PM »

Quote from: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:34 PM

im not too technical with the sensitivity and all that stuff
most wharf are 86db warm sounding and great synergy with Pioneer receivers
mostly the powerful one..
i tried pio 1021 with wharf 9series... basing this by experience

in this case at least 100watts of amplifier power...

DTNS · « **Reply #10 on:** Nov 26, 2012 at 09:00 PM »

AE, GoldenEars and JBLs sound good with Harmans.

barrister · « **Reply #11 on:** Nov 26, 2012 at 09:03 PM »

Quote from: DTNS on Nov 26, 2012 at 09:00 PM

AE, GoldenEars and JBLs sound good with Harmans.

This is good info.

Madalas akong matanong ng Harman match --- JBL & Infinity lang ang naisasagot ko.

Quote from: 45caliber on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:01 PM

what if denon-wharfedale?

Not good daw? (not sure.)

45caliber · « **Reply #12 on:** Nov 26, 2012 at 09:39 PM »

also got my 10.1 last monday at 10cs last saturday sa spectra.. sabi nila di naman daw totoo na pangit na combination ang denon at wharfedale.. ako naman narinig ko lang din na pangit daw ipares ang dalawa..

tonetagabaler · « **Reply #13 on:** Nov 26, 2012 at 10:08 PM »

Any infos about marantz. :-)

barrister · « **Reply #14 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 12:02 AM »

Quote from: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:34 PM

im not too technical with the sensitivity and all that stuff
most wharf are 86db warm sounding and great synergy with Pioneer receivers
mostly the powerful one..
i tried pio 1021 with wharf 9series... basing this by experience

OK nga ang ganon sir. That's the kind of info I'm really looking for.

Generalizations dapat ang emphasis, then ang details ay pang-sidelights na lang. If we put more emphasis on specifics and technicalities, hindi rin naman matatapos yan. Ang mangyayari, parang yung sa religion thread na lang ang magiging usapan ...

Timithekid · « **Reply #15 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 12:05 AM »

My experience was with Diamond 10's and pioneer and it sounded nice to me too. Warm parin. The Yammy - Wharf combination that I also had exprience with was a yamaha - modus one six na wharf. That was also a nice warm combo.

Tavus · « **Reply #16 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 12:15 AM »

. I own a Polk tSI and they go well with my harman kardon

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #17 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 12:18 AM »

For me, habang tumataas ang models ng mga receivers, it gets kinda easier to match because higher models tend to have better EQing/tweaking possibilities. Maski bright both ang receiver and speakers, with a powerful EQ, most often, it can be tamed. Kung mababa ang cut-off mo ng speakers, sensitivity and impedance would be an issue if you're going to use the receiver's amp.

Sa stereo listening naman, in the absence of EQ, mas-important ang proper matching.

Quote from: Timithekid on Nov 27, 2012 at 12:05 AM

My experience was with Diamond 10's and pioneer and it sounded nice to me too. Warm parin. The Yammy - Wharf combination that I also had exprience with was a yamaha - modus one six na wharf. That was also a nice warm combo.

Though generally warm talaga ang wharfs

, hindi kaya warm pa din ang combination na yan is because of the auto calibration ng receiver?

dodie · « **Reply #18 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 12:19 AM »

My personal take, tried onkyo608/709 with rega rs1 for music, and its wonderful. Detailed, refined, and warm! Also tried onkyo608/709 with LSA2 tower, much better than rs1. Infinity and onkyo= balanced and neutral also.

Courage · « **Reply #19 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 12:20 AM »

Quote from: Tavus on Nov 27, 2012 at 12:15 AM

. I own a Polk tSI and they go well with my harman kardon

My RTI's went well as well with my HK5500... Too bad it didnt went well when i upgraded my receiver to Yamaha.. It was ok in HT but too bright when it comes to music..

Wharfs and Yamaha are ok too
Wharfs and NAD ok too
PSB and Yamaha - winner for me..

Wharfs i used was the Diamond 8 series so i dont know how they compare with the 9's or 10's

Timithekid · « **Reply #20 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 12:45 AM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Nov 27, 2012 at 12:18 AM

For me, habang tumataas ang models ng mga receivers, it gets kinda easier to match because higher models tend to have better EQing/tweaking possibilities. Maski bright both ang receiver and speakers, with a powerful EQ, most often, it can be tamed. Kung mababa ang cut-off mo ng speakers, sensitivity and impedance would be an issue if you're going to use the receiver's amp.

Sa stereo listening naman, in the absence of EQ, mas-important ang proper matching.

Though generally warm talaga ang wharfs , hindi kaya warm pa din ang combination na yan is because of the auto calibration ng receiver?

agree Master Nelson, actually napagusapan na namin ni Barrister ito and with receiver technology such as audessy, mcacc, and YPAO naapapadali na ang speaker - receiver matching kasi nahahabol na ng EQ.

ATJr. · « **Reply #21 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 05:04 AM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Nov 27, 2012 at 12:18 AM

For me, habang tumataas ang models ng mga receivers, it gets kinda easier to match because higher models tend to have better EQing/tweaking possibilities. Maski bright both ang receiver and speakers, with a powerful EQ, most often, it can be tamed. Kung mababa ang cut-off mo ng speakers, sensitivity and impedance would be an issue if you're going to use the receiver's amp.

Sa stereo listening naman, in the absence of EQ, mas-important ang proper matching.

Though generally warm talaga ang wharfs , hindi kaya warm pa din ang combination na yan is because of the auto calibration ng receiver?

very true, the higher the power rating of the receiver or amplifier the more types of speakers it can drive...

dencio105 · « **Reply #22 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 05:50 AM »

What about Monitor Audio speakers what are the choices for good matching receivers?

Stagea · « **Reply #23 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 06:44 AM »

Quote from: dencio105 on Nov 27, 2012 at 05:50 AM

What about Monitor Audio speakers what are the choices for good matching receivers?

For their recent models, Yamaha or CA for me -- as long as you get a higher model AVR for higher model speakers. As with anything, YMMV. Listen before you buy.

gunslinger · « **Reply #24 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 07:27 AM »

For stereo listening, what's good to pair with Marantz? as mentioned, matching is really critical since most stereo amps don't have calibration software that can be used to adjust the sound.

raider125jeigh · « **Reply #25 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 07:34 AM »

Quote from: gunslinger on Nov 27, 2012 at 07:27 AM

For stereo listening, what's good to pair with Marantz? as mentioned, matching is really critical since most stereo amps don't have calibration software that can be used to adjust the sound.

marantz sound warm....madali tong imatch huwag nalang sa wharf...unless you really want laid back...
marantz > MA > Polk >

gunslinger · « **Reply #26 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 07:42 AM »

Was planning to test it with Wharf and Mezzo since I haven't heard these pairs yet. I found the Polks a tad too bright when I paired it before with my HK amp. But i will listen to it with the Marantz.

raider125jeigh · « **Reply #27 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 07:49 AM »

Quote from: gunslinger on Nov 27, 2012 at 07:42 AM

Was planning to test it with Wharf and Mezzo since I haven't heard these pairs yet. I found the Polks a tad too bright when I paired it before with my HK amp. But i will listen to it with the Marantz.

stereo listening ba?
i suggest you use integrated amp for better result....
or marantz int amp hehe...
iba kasi ung int amp sa receiver kapag music

raider125jeigh · « **Reply #28 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 07:50 AM »

Quote from: gunslinger on Nov 27, 2012 at 07:42 AM

Was planning to test it with Wharf and Mezzo since I haven't heard these pairs yet. I found the Polks a tad too bright when I paired it before with my HK amp. But i will listen to it with the Marantz.

heard mezzo laid back and tunog...

gunslinger · « **Reply #29 on:** Nov 27, 2012 at 08:10 AM »

Meron na ako Marantz stereo receiver and cdp. Eto yung hinahanapan ko ng speaker. Ang gamit ko ngayon vintage akai coax na BS pero parang may kulang sa sound na gusto ko. Maliit ang sound stage and kulang sa imaging at lambing. Probably because the BS was designed as surround for a quadrosonic set-up for the Akai before.