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Re: Supersized displays: LED, Plasma (60" and up)
« Reply #60 on: Aug 31, 2012 at 07:50 AM »
after much data gathering and deliberation, ive finally decided to get the sammy led... but the endless sars gastos doesnt end there...now i have to buy a new 3d capable receiver as well and a new 3d projector for the hat trick....   and the waiting game has yet to begin...

will need to sell my current tv, avr and pj.  selling those will cover 1/3 of my new expense.. and the fact that i have virtually no idea how much i should sell my old gears.... priced too high and i might make a mockery of the people here... priced too low and i would feel the pain of the upgrade itch...


hayyyyy. why did i ever come across this site?? :( its making me feel emotions only a pregnant woman with hormonal imbalance can relate to...



healthy kidneys anyone??? ive got one to spare... ;D


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Re: Supersized displays: LED, Plasma (60" and up)
« Reply #61 on: Sep 04, 2012 at 02:35 AM »

LG, Sony and Toshiba all came out with 84" 4K TVs. Apparently, all of them are using LG panels.


after much data gathering and deliberation, ive finally decided to get the sammy led... but the endless sars gastos doesnt end there...now i have to buy a new 3d capable receiver as well and a new 3d projector for the hat trick....   and the waiting game has yet to begin...

Congrats with your new TV sir!

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Re: Supersized displays: LED, Plasma (60" and up)
« Reply #62 on: Sep 04, 2012 at 07:18 AM »
after much data gathering and deliberation, ive finally decided to get the sammy led... but the endless sars gastos doesnt end there...now i have to buy a new 3d capable receiver as well and a new 3d projector for the hat trick....   and the waiting game has yet to begin...

will need to sell my current tv, avr and pj.  selling those will cover 1/3 of my new expense.. and the fact that i have virtually no idea how much i should sell my old gears.... priced too high and i might make a mockery of the people here... priced too low and i would feel the pain of the upgrade itch...


hayyyyy. why did i ever come across this site?? :( its making me feel emotions only a pregnant woman with hormonal imbalance can relate to...



healthy kidneys anyone??? ive got one to spare... ;D


Congrats sir,...
Masakit sa bulsa, pero hindi mabayaran ang kaligayahan nyan sir,...
When I got my LED, nagsimula na akong mag-shift from 720 to 1080 sources,...
Hinay hinay lang sir,..  :D

Cheers,..!

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Re: Supersized displays: LED, Plasma (60" and up)
« Reply #63 on: Sep 04, 2012 at 07:35 AM »
If you have a dark room, lalong kita ang clouding (screen uniformity problem) ng edge LED.  Turn on some lights para hindi masyadong kita ang uniformity issues.  I have recessed lights with adjustable dimmer, maybe that will be useful to you.

Or get a plasma.  If you're a movie buff, it has to be a dark room so that you're immersed in the movie's picture without distractions from what you see in surrounding areas.  Ang bright room, pang cable viewing lang yan, yung may ginagawa kang ibang bagay while the TV plays in the background, hindi pang movie buffs yan.  Kung baga sa rubbing alcohol, pang pamilya lang, hindi pang isports...  :D

Plasma has dithering issues if your viewing distance is too close.  But if you have the correct viewing distance, dithering should be invisible.

The ones who complain about grain in plasma are non movie buffs.  If you're really into movies, you know something about cinematography, and you know that grain structure is a part of the picture.  Remove the grain and you alter the picture into something that differs from the original.  Plus, you also erase some of the fine detail in the process of removing the grain.

Try looking for grain the next time you see a film-based movie in a real movie theater.  You will notice that the grain is also there.  No grain if originally shot in digital camera, unless grain was deliberately added in post-production such as "Superman Returns" (2006) and "300" (2006) --- shot in digital but added artificial grain afterwards.    

Therefore, you should not have grain when you watch Kung Fu Panda, but you should definitely see grain when you watch The Sound of Music.  No grain on The Sound of Music?  That's not good, that's actually bad ...  :(

Ignore the "It's like looking through a window" comment.  Remember, you are not looking at real life, you are supposed to be looking at a representation of real life, as intended by the artist.  That means desaturation, color filters, oversaturation, 24fps motion cadence, film grain, soft-focus lenses, etc., are all part of the picture.  

If original artistic intent doesn't mean anything to you, then I don't see why you should put up with plasma.  Just get an LCD and get it over with, di ba?

Imagine Saving Private Ryan.  That movie used grainy 35mm Eastman EXR film; lenses that were stripped of the protective coating to make them look like 1940s lenses; brightness was reduced and color was desaturated by running the negatives through a bleach-bypass process; for battle scenes, camera shutter timing was set to 90 or 45 degrees instead of the standard 180 degree shutter timing.  The intent was to make it look like real WWII film footage.  Your TV should be able to reproduce the original picture accurately.  I've seen Private Ryan many times with 120Hz on the showroom floor of appliance stores --- man, that SOE (soap opera effect) motion cadence looked really awful --- totally ruined the angle timing effect on the shutter speed ...  :P

Yung water scenes on your Sammy LCD/LED, that's the result of low motion resolution.  Yung 1080p resolution spec, sa mga still pictures lang yon.  Once the picture is in motion, resolution drops dramatically on LED/LCD to around 550p.  The highest-end LCD/LED can do high motion resolution, but plasma can easily do 900p motion on low-end models to 1080p motion on high-end models.

That's why LCD/LED has to resort to fakery.  Which is why they invented 120Hz, 240Hz, etc. motion interpolation --- to be able to hide the low motion resolution issue.  And that's why plasma doesn't need the 120Hz trickery --- because its motion resolution is naturaly high anyway.  But why do new plasma models also have the 120Hz trick?  Because that's what the market wants, and they have to please the market to be able to survive the competition.    

If you find yourself appreciating cinematography more and more, then I guess you should go for plasma.


Very interesting information about graining...thank you
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Re: Supersized displays: LED, Plasma (60" and up)
« Reply #64 on: Sep 06, 2012 at 09:39 PM »
Anybody here owns a Sharp Aquos Quattron LED Smart 3D TV model no. LC70C8470U... any review please? TIA..  ;D  
« Last Edit: Sep 07, 2012 at 12:07 AM by T33K0Y »