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What is th best NMT
« on: Oct 28, 2009 at 02:46 PM »
Hi,

  For thos who have NMT what is the best NMT that you have use?

Pros and Cons? Price?

Thanks
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #1 on: Oct 28, 2009 at 03:16 PM »
When you say "NMT" are you referring to NMT as in media player with SIGMA chip, or you are referring to media players in general whether it be SIGMA or REALTEK etc..
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #2 on: Oct 28, 2009 at 06:05 PM »
refering as general
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #3 on: Oct 28, 2009 at 06:15 PM »
I only have 2 media players, both runs on Realtek and they navigate fast and around 95% of my media files plays flawlessly.

I have not owned any sigma based media player, but have tried and seen some. They are a bit slow in navigation. UI looks better though than most Realtek based players. Compatibility issues with NTFS formatted disks in playing 1080 movies. Im not so sure with the new Popcorn hour C200 which uses a newer chip and the WDTV Live which also uses a different Sigma chip version. Haven't tested one of these yet.

Most Realtek media players are cheaper than Sigma based ones.  Except for the WDTV Live and eGreat m34a which is about the same price range.
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #4 on: Oct 28, 2009 at 09:05 PM »
I only have 2 media players, both runs on Realtek and they navigate fast and around 95% of my media files plays flawlessly.

I have not owned any sigma based media player, but have tried and seen some. They are a bit slow in navigation. UI looks better though than most Realtek based players. Compatibility issues with NTFS formatted disks in playing 1080 movies. Im not so sure with the new Popcorn hour C200 which uses a newer chip and the WDTV Live which also uses a different Sigma chip version. Haven't tested one of these yet.

Most Realtek media players are cheaper than Sigma based ones.  Except for the WDTV Live and eGreat m34a which is about the same price range.

What compatibility issues are you referring to? Is this a general statement or just your specific experience?

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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #5 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 03:11 AM »
parang sa mga nababasa ko dito, the more expensive, the better ;D

napansin ko lang ha kasi i dont see/read much cons pagdating sa mga high end NMT's, all praises :D.


napansin ko lang naman ::)

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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #6 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 09:47 AM »
What compatibility issues are you referring to? Is this a general statement or just your specific experience?


Not personal experience, but based on users' feedbacks. And when I tried it at ehome, they recommend using EXT3 because most 1080p movies might stutter.
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #7 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 09:50 AM »
parang sa mga nababasa ko dito, the more expensive, the better ;D

napansin ko lang ha kasi i dont see/read much cons pagdating sa mga high end NMT's, all praises :D.


napansin ko lang naman ::)

Or maybe, they just don't want to comment kasi hindi majujustify yung ginastos nila hehe!!! :D

Im not saying that realtek media players are the best, they just seem more practical. Especially for us who are on a tight budget. ;)
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #8 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 09:57 AM »
actually we spend more trying almost everything that will suit our taste

for example buying an egreat m34a for 8k and disposing it for 6.5k after a couple of days coz it sucks. lugi kaagad ng 1.5k then bili ng what you think is better then pag hindi nasatisfy benta na naman ng palugi.

i guess it's better off buying high end rite away than buying mids na cheaper pero less features and quality kungbaga you get what you paid for.  :D

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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #9 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 10:24 AM »
Not personal experience, but based on users' feedbacks. And when I tried it at ehome, they recommend using EXT3 because most 1080p movies might stutter.

I use an HDX 1000 NMT - there is no problem at all with external drives formatted in NTFS.  I have NEVER encountered stuttering with any 1080p material.  Even large 30-40GB files play seamlessly.  Similarly, the Popcorn Hour A-110 does not stutter when playing 1080p material from an NTFS drive.  (Chances are, one day, I will encounter a file that stutters - but this would be an isolated issue, perhaps due to the encoding method)

As far as the HDX 1000 is concerned, I recommend EXT3 file system for the ff. reasons:
1.  EXT3 provides both Read/Write access from the on-screen menu, as well as over the network
2.  Fast response when navigating the on-screen menu (especially when changing media sources)

NMT devices are designed to read NTFS drives; if you are encountering difficulty with 1080p material, it may be a problem with the design/hardware implementation for that particular device.  You may also want to check your USB port and external hard drive to see if they're performing per specs.

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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #10 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 11:46 AM »
actually we spend more trying almost everything that will suit our taste

for example buying an egreat m34a for 8k and disposing it for 6.5k after a couple of days coz it sucks. lugi kaagad ng 1.5k then bili ng what you think is better then pag hindi nasatisfy benta na naman ng palugi.

i guess it's better off buying high end rite away than buying mids na cheaper pero less features and quality kungbaga you get what you paid for.  :D

Well, that depends on what features are useful to you and what are not. Hindi porke't maraming features e you're at the advantage hehe! Parang you're paying for something that you will not use in actual. Just a thought... ;)
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #11 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 11:48 AM »
I use an HDX 1000 NMT - there is no problem at all with external drives formatted in NTFS.  I have NEVER encountered stuttering with any 1080p material.  Even large 30-40GB files play seamlessly.  Similarly, the Popcorn Hour A-110 does not stutter when playing 1080p material from an NTFS drive.  (Chances are, one day, I will encounter a file that stutters - but this would be an isolated issue, perhaps due to the encoding method)

As far as the HDX 1000 is concerned, I recommend EXT3 file system for the ff. reasons:
1.  EXT3 provides both Read/Write access from the on-screen menu, as well as over the network
2.  Fast response when navigating the on-screen menu (especially when changing media sources)

NMT devices are designed to read NTFS drives; if you are encountering difficulty with 1080p material, it may be a problem with the design/hardware implementation for that particular device.  You may also want to check your USB port and external hard drive to see if they're performing per specs.


Ok, I stand corrected. ;)

Maybe the advantage of realtek media players for now is the swift navigation and cheaper price point.
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #12 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 09:34 PM »

NMT devices are designed to read NTFS drives; if you are encountering difficulty with 1080p material, it may be a problem with the design/hardware implementation for that particular device.  You may also want to check your USB port and external hard drive to see if they're performing per specs.


I agree that differences in design and implementation is one the possible reason for differences in performance or behaviour of an NMT.

One example, I recently tried an MKV movie that played well on the HDX1000 but would not play at all on the WDTV. Considering it, this file was on the same USB drive, and further on both the HDX1000 and the WDTV use the same Sigma SMP8635 processor chip.


Nah, it could not be just the NTFS partition.... ???

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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #13 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 09:39 PM »
Well, that depends on what features are useful to you and what are not. Hindi porke't maraming features e you're at the advantage hehe! Parang you're paying for something that you will not use in actual. Just a thought... ;)

For me the available useful features are part of it. Yes, a particular feature that you are looking for might be there, but it's a bit quircky at times or even maybe unreliable. Like, after using that feature your NMT will behave funny and you have to do a work-around to apply corrections or worse you cannot get out of it unless you reboot the unit.

However, I also have recently learned a few things in my hunt for a worthy and even though a bit costly NMT --- stability, availability of support, and most of all maturity.

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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #14 on: Nov 04, 2009 at 11:10 AM »
Yeah, and not all mature products are worthy of their price.
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #15 on: Nov 04, 2009 at 04:27 PM »
Yeah, and not all mature products are worthy of their price.

Why would that be?


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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #16 on: Nov 04, 2009 at 05:02 PM »
So based from the threads - NMT and owners, what is the best NMT locally available?

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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #17 on: Nov 04, 2009 at 05:05 PM »
Why would that be?



Because some are just overpriced.. ;)
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #18 on: Nov 04, 2009 at 05:06 PM »
So based from the threads - NMT and owners, what is the best NMT locally available?

No definite answer. Purely subjective. Para mong tinatanong kung anong tipo ng babae ang pinakamaganda hehehe!!!
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #19 on: Nov 04, 2009 at 05:09 PM »
Because some are just overpriced.. ;)

Which one(s) are matured and overpriced?
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #20 on: Nov 04, 2009 at 05:12 PM »
So based from the threads - NMT and owners, what is the best NMT locally available?

Well kanya kanya ngang qualifications, but in my opinion, Raptor's Tvix is the best.   The weaknesses of my Egreat 31B are well covered by the PC.  Kaya sabi ng 31B sa PC, "You complete me"  ;D

Hopefully, the new gen of media players are truly reliable in terms of 1080p playback - and pure BD rip na rin.

  
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #21 on: Nov 04, 2009 at 05:21 PM »
Which one(s) are matured and overpriced?


I'm not just referring to NMTs in particular but in general. Like Sony products hehe!!! I am a Sony hater.  ;D
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #22 on: Nov 09, 2009 at 11:30 PM »
just to correct a common misconception

price has nothing to do with quality. 

ie.  more expensive the better - not true.

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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #23 on: Nov 10, 2009 at 02:34 AM »
Intel NMT's are also due to arrive next year. 

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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #24 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 12:22 PM »
question mga sir, im planning to get a second nmt. if you were to choose between these two, which would you get? both have dts downmix, almost same functions, price difference is + - 500pesos
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add na rin pala ung wdtv 2
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #25 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 02:10 PM »
question mga sir, im planning to get a second nmt. if you were to choose between these two, which would you get? both have dts downmix, almost same functions, price difference is + - 500pesos
extreamer
cinematube

add na rin pala ung wdtv 2

Hirap naman ng tanong mo tsong...  ;D
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #26 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 02:55 PM »
question mga sir, im planning to get a second nmt. if you were to choose between these two, which would you get? both have dts downmix, almost same functions, price difference is + - 500pesos
extreamer
cinematube

add na rin pala ung wdtv 2

Anya Bro, dala ako ng pinakamatinding test specimens sa pasko, tapos arrange mo kung sino mang kakilala mo na meron bagong NMT and pasyalan natin dalawa.  Survival of the fittest (new) player.   Then yun ang bilhin natin before New Year.

After my experience with the 31B, to test with my data is to believe na ako sa mga NMT.   ;)

Kaso hindi ka yata makahintay?   ;D

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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #27 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 04:52 PM »
Anya Bro, dala ako ng pinakamatinding test specimens sa pasko, tapos arrange mo kung sino mang kakilala mo na meron bagong NMT and pasyalan natin dalawa.  Survival of the fittest (new) player.   Then yun ang bilhin natin before New Year.

After my experience with the 31B, to test with my data is to believe na ako sa mga NMT.   ;)

Kaso hindi ka yata makahintay?   ;D

sa second tv (crt tv) ko kasi gagamitin sir kaya as long as it can downmix dts ok na sakin
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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #28 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 05:19 PM »
the best nmt? Well I only hope na mayroon nga, but i have used a number of them, and i can say each of the nmts that i tried/used had pros and cons... siguro the best nmt out there is the one that satisfies your own needs depende sa paggagamitan. You just have to try looking but thats on the premise of how much you wanna spend until you find the one that suits you :)


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Re: What is th best NMT
« Reply #29 on: Nov 13, 2009 at 05:21 PM »
sa second tv (crt tv) ko kasi gagamitin sir kaya as long as it can downmix dts ok na sakin

I think wala nang problem sa DTS downmix kahit alin sa mga bagong players.   Playabilility of files nalang ang labanan kase pareho lang tayong "plug & play" ang gusto diba?     :)  For example, kung yung pinakamahal na WDTV Live ang pinaka-magaling sa playback and probably IQ, titipirin mo pa ba ang 1K or so?    ;)
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