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Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« on: Dec 27, 2009 at 01:41 PM »
Help naman po kung anung model ng power ang need ko para sa Crown BF1208
650watts po sya .. pati na din po equalizer.!


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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #1 on: Dec 27, 2009 at 02:38 PM »

sa specs ng speakers mo kailangan mo ng no less than 1K watts pro-amps like Crown,QSC,Peavy or other names.. models lot of selections available on the market...  :o  :o  HiH..  ;D
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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #2 on: Dec 27, 2009 at 02:47 PM »
sir help naman po... generic amp lang kase gamit ko and hindi ko satisfied sa tunog... help naman po.

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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #3 on: Dec 27, 2009 at 04:41 PM »
sa specs ng speakers mo kailangan mo ng no less than 1K watts pro-amps like Crown,QSC,Peavy or other names.. models lot of selections available on the market...  :o  :o  HiH..  ;D

sir specific model po ng amp? para my idea po ako...

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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #4 on: Dec 27, 2009 at 04:45 PM »
sir specific model po ng amp? para my idea po ako...

get the behringer europower 4000 amp at intune stores for 25k pesos


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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #5 on: Dec 27, 2009 at 05:11 PM »
nice suggestion bro. GneW available pala sa atin ito at heard some members are satisfied with it's performance.  ;D

sir help naman po... generic amp lang kase gamit ko and hindi ko satisfied sa tunog... help naman po.

kung generic amps make sure that the power ratings/channel are higher than the speakers power handling rate...  :D

can you give detail specs of your speakers... if it's 650 W/c @8ohms so it's possible it dips down to 6-4 ohms which some amps may not rated to handle lower impedance. so, check the min. impedance&power it requires then look for an amp that matches to it..

sir specific model po ng amp? para my idea po ako...

gaya ng sinabi ko to give you specific model, first get datailed specs of your speakers for better match-up...


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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #6 on: Dec 27, 2009 at 11:58 PM »
Power                       650 W
System                       3-way
Speaker                        3 Speaker
Woofer Size                    12"
Sub-Woofer                    N/A
Mid Range                       5"
Tweeter                       3"
Impedance                       8Ω
Sensitivity                       99 dB/W/M
Frequency response       45Hz ~ 18 KHz
Dimension (mm)                    360x610x315

yan po mismo galing sa site ng crown...  
budget amp lang po sana. kahit 2nd hand pwede na... need pa ng mixer di po ba?

salamat sa lahat mga guru's
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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #7 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 12:48 AM »
nice suggestion bro. GneW available pala sa atin ito at heard some members are satisfied with it's performance.  ;D

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yes sir audiojunkie, available sa atin to same as the sticker price of behringer website. but you can get it at  35% less sa mga online retailer sa US kaso 110v lang mga units nila.

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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #8 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 01:03 AM »
nice suggestion bro. GneW available pala sa atin ito at heard some members are satisfied with it's performance.  ;D

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yes sir audiojunkie, available sa atin to same as the sticker price of behringer website. but you can get it at  35% less sa mga online retailer sa US kaso 110v lang mga units nila.

okay sana sir GneW kung multi-voltage ang unit, minsan kasi 'di maiwasan ang aksidente to plug into 220V... :(  :(
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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #9 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 01:25 AM »
Power                       650 W
Impedance                       8Ω
Sensitivity                       99 dB/W/M
Frequency response       45Hz ~ 18 KHz

sir saymaname... as/specs it's possible it dips down about half the stated impedance. @12" woofer it should give much lower bass response but specs says 45Hz only kun 'di ako nagkakamali matigas ang BASS when pump-up the volume. sa high freq. naman limited rin dahil sa 3" dia ng  tweeter. Pero @99db ay mataas compared to other brands that real world it can be driven by any generic low-powered amps.
also, have to consider amps DAMPING factor rating, the higher the better.
Calling other Tech_GURUS to give more technical views and I stand corrected for my analysis and opinions... :D
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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #10 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 09:26 AM »
salamat po sa  lahat ng nagbibigay ng adviice....

 maganda na po ba ung speaker ko?

need ko nalang ba  talaga ng p.amp?

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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #11 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 09:52 AM »
saan mo ba gagamitin at ano na ang existing equipment mo maliban sa speakers? magkano budget?
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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #12 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 10:12 AM »
Can you post a picture of your speakers?  Just curious.  Its specs read like it's an old one.  I was surprised to read 3" tweeter. It must be a paper-based tweeter. I don't think they still make these.

What's the power rating of current generic power amp?  Is it for home use?

By amplifier, you probably mean integrated amps.  If you visit Raon or Evangelista, or even the Pier Shopping mall fronting the Manla Cathedral, I'm certain you can find a generic amp. 


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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #13 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 10:13 AM »
Power                       650 W
System                       3-way
Speaker                        3 Speaker
Woofer Size                    12"
Sub-Woofer                    N/A
Mid Range                       5"
Tweeter                       3"
Impedance                       8Ω
Sensitivity                       99 dB/W/M
Frequency response       45Hz ~ 18 KHz
Dimension (mm)                    360x610x315

yan po mismo galing sa site ng crown...  
budget amp lang po sana. kahit 2nd hand pwede na... need pa ng mixer di po ba?

salamat sa lahat mga guru's

If the specs given above are accurate, then these are very efficient speakers. Just looking at its 99db sensitivity given a 1watt at 1 meter away proves that even a SET amp with 3-5 watts will make this speaker sing.
This is a 3-way design so its a full range speaker, thus its 650 wattage is not as important as its sensitivity.

Again, if the 99db sensitivity is accurate, you may try virtually any amp sold in the market today - from multi channel AVRs (if for HT) or even flea powered 2ch amps (for audio) should be more than enough.
Try to borrow any kind of amp & connect it to your speakers at home just to check its sonics if you like 'em - if not, shop for other speakers nalang.


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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #14 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 02:35 PM »
saan mo ba gagamitin at ano na ang existing equipment mo maliban sa speakers? magkano budget?


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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #15 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 02:55 PM »
pang house party?

for this purpose you really need a PRO-amps to drive them. ..  :o  :o  :o

A good quality EQ also to tailor the sound you like...  ::)  ::)  ::)  ;D
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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #16 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 04:14 PM »
pang house party?
for this purpose you really need a PRO-amps to drive them. ..  :o  :o  :o

A good quality EQ also to tailor the sound you like...  ::)  ::)  ::)  ;D
+1. or for flexibility you may consider a mixer with eq. just bear in mind that in setting an equalizer, it is better to cut peaks rather than boost dips in the frequency response.
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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #17 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 04:40 PM »
hhmmm parang same kayo ni ghomer ng problema ah... ::)

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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #18 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 06:53 PM »
anu pong affordable na P.amp and equalizer?

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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #19 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 07:01 PM »

Can you post a picture of your speakers?  Just curious.  Its specs read like it's an old one.  I was surprised to read 3" tweeter. It must be a paper-based tweeter. I don't think they still make these.
What's the power rating of current generic power amp?  Is it for home use?
By amplifier, you probably mean integrated amps.  If you visit Raon or Evangelista, or even the Pier Shopping mall fronting the Manla Cathedral, I'm certain you can find a generic amp. 

anu pong affordable na P.amp and equalizer?
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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #20 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 08:42 PM »
anu pong affordable na P.amp and equalizer?

salamat sa mga nagsusuggest...

check out also the konzert power amps. dunno if this is cheap or cost effective than the behringer.


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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #21 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 09:05 PM »
anung model po kaya yan?

 need ko ba is 1000w left and right?

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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #22 on: Dec 28, 2009 at 09:33 PM »
anung model po kaya yan?

 need ko ba is 1000w left and right?

mukhang malaking budget ang kelangan mo dito. the behringer ep2500/4000 can deliver 1200 watts at 2 ohms but definitely less than a 1000 watts at 8 ohms (your speaker's sensitivity). but if you are talking about 1000 watts PMPO, madami nyan sa raon ;D ;D

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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #23 on: Dec 29, 2009 at 08:43 AM »
mukhang malaking budget ang kelangan mo dito. the behringer ep2500/4000 can deliver 1200 watts at 2 ohms but definitely less than a 1000 watts at 8 ohms (your speaker's sensitivity). but if you are talking about 1000 watts PMPO, madami nyan sa raon ;D ;D

anu po kaya ang affordaable na p.amp..

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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #24 on: Dec 29, 2009 at 11:47 AM »
How much is affordable to you?   
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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #25 on: Dec 29, 2009 at 11:59 AM »
kahit po siguro 2nd hand basta working fine ok na un....

wala po idea sir... ngaun lang po ako na humaling sa ganitong field..

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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #26 on: Dec 29, 2009 at 12:23 PM »
pang house party?

gano kalaki ang house mo?.....nung nag-aaral pa ako...gamit namin tube amp mga 20 watts at 2 x 3way na baffles...overnight ang party namin...siguro nasa 30 katao kami noon......masaya naman.... ;D
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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #27 on: Dec 29, 2009 at 12:25 PM »
hindi porke't meron kang 2 x 650 watts na speaker ay ganoon din ang wattage ng amp mo....kakayaning sirain ng 100watter na amp yan.....

since you are still starting...i would suggest a sakura 502, @3500, solved ka na kung sa bahay mo lang gagamitin...
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Re: Power Amp suggestion for 2 pcs 650watts speaker
« Reply #28 on: Dec 29, 2009 at 12:35 PM »
gano kalaki ang house mo?.....nung nag-aaral pa ako...gamit namin tube amp mga 20 watts at 2 x 3way na baffles...overnight ang party namin...siguro nasa 30 katao kami noon......masaya naman.... ;D


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« Reply #29 on: Dec 29, 2009 at 12:50 PM »

party goer ka din pala Tony ha...  ;D ;D ;D



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