Author Topic: harman/kardon avr (Read 367347 times)

aHobbit · « **Reply #3180 on:** Jul 28, 2006 at 02:46 PM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Jul 28, 2006 at 09:13 AM

If you use any of the player's digital output, the processing will be done by your receiver instead of the player's onboard decoders. Sa madaling sabi, you get DTS.

IF you use the optical cable, even if you dont have DTS decoder in the DVD player, will play DTS recording via the receiver's DTS decoder.

DVD+receiver can be configured 2 ways for you to get DTS

(1) DVD set to put out DTS : the receiver receives the default signal (the DVD-outputted DTS)

OR

(2) DVD set to put out RAW signal : the receiver is configured to select the DTS signal from the RAW signal - this configuration make use of your DVD player as mere transport - not the decoding feature.

aHobbit · « **Reply #3181 on:** Jul 28, 2006 at 02:50 PM »

Quote from: BongerDude on Jul 28, 2006 at 10:43 AM

Bro, i tried this using nextbase 656 dvd player (walang dts decoder) hooked it up to HK avr135 using optical out. Wala pa ring DTS sir. Tried it also sa Daewoo DVD player na walang DTS, wala rin. When i tried naman sa pioneer dvd player ko, nagkaroon ng DTS. So i guess kelangan ng DVD player na may DTS decoder maski may receiver.

Choose RAW output in the NEXTBASE DVD player : Configure your AVR to select/process the DTS signal

BongerDude · « **Reply #3182 on:** Jul 28, 2006 at 03:05 PM »

Ah ganun pala yun. Thank you sir for enlightening me !

scofield · « **Reply #3183 on:** Jul 28, 2006 at 04:50 PM »

so, tama ba? kahit walang built in dts decoder yung dvdplayer basta connected digitally sa avr na may dts decoder pwere ka pa rin manood using dts mode?

e paano kung sa 6 channel direct input connected ganun rin ba?

scofield · « **Reply #3184 on:** Jul 28, 2006 at 05:06 PM »

Quote from: EHMBU on Jul 27, 2006 at 04:59 PM

Guys i have 2 dvd player one is pioneer and the other one is generic only...

Question:
pwede ko ba ikabit sa hk235 ko ung isang dvd player(pioneer) ko sa dvd input using optical cable and yung generic dvd player ko sa cd input using coaxial cable ng receiver?

Thanks

di po ba pwede mo rin ikabit yan sa Video 1 or Video 2 inputs?

kojie · « **Reply #3185 on:** Jul 28, 2006 at 09:48 PM »

Planning to get the jbl scs200.6 and hk135 sa abensons.. ok pa rin ba na combo to ?? my budget is limited, kung may suggestions kyo na mas ok please feel free to do so ...

tnx in advance .

skylynx888 · « **Reply #3186 on:** Jul 28, 2006 at 10:35 PM »

pipol, may service center b HK dito? Im not sure if my question has been asked in the previous pages or can be found somewhere...

, thanks

BongerDude · « **Reply #3187 on:** Jul 29, 2006 at 07:58 AM »

Quote from: kojie on Jul 28, 2006 at 09:48 PM

Planning to get the jbl scs200.6 and hk135 sa abensons.. ok pa rin ba na combo to ?? my budget is limited, kung may suggestions kyo na mas ok please feel free to do so ...

tnx in advance .

Bro mahal sa abenson. saang abenson ka ba tumingin? How much yang combo?

EHMBU · « **Reply #3188 on:** Jul 29, 2006 at 08:48 AM »

Quote from: av_phile1 on Jul 28, 2006 at 11:40 AM

Like I said, your generic can also connect to your receiver via optical, regardless of whether you use it for music or for HT. I would connect it via digital, knowing that the HK AVR would have a better decoding and DAC processor than a generic player.

Thanks sir... I use my coaxial cable nalang gagamitin ko since may extra coax ako...
Thanks alot sir...

Quote from: BongerDude on Jul 28, 2006 at 11:03 AM

Sorry po maam pala... anyway, maam siguro po mag RCA ka na lang. Wala kong naririnig na difference pag optical/coaxial compared sa RCA lang eh for audio. Mas mura pa yung cable. I'm not sure lang po siguro kasi untrained lang ang ears ko

Untrained din po yung tenga ko sir, but i have extra coax kaya hindi na po ako bibilli unlsess may i-recommend kyo na mas ok ang connection na wala ako tsaka lang ako bibibli...

EHMBU · « **Reply #3189 on:** Jul 29, 2006 at 08:53 AM »

Quote from: skylynx888 on Jul 28, 2006 at 10:35 PM

pipol, may service center b HK dito? Im not sure if my question has been asked in the previous pages or can be found somewhere... , thanks

Sir sa Beyond Innovations (unit B4 Topy's Plate, Calle, industria, Cor. economia St., Libis Q.C.

Hope this help...

skylynx888 · « **Reply #3190 on:** Jul 29, 2006 at 09:52 AM »

Quote from: EHMBU on Jul 29, 2006 at 08:53 AM

Sir sa Beyond Innovations (unit B4 Topy's Plate, Calle, industria, Cor. economia St., Libis Q.C.

Hope this help...

thank you po...

classicman · « **Reply #3191 on:** Jul 29, 2006 at 10:12 AM »

Quote from: jaytee15 on Jul 28, 2006 at 04:50 PM

so, tama ba? kahit walang built in dts decoder yung dvdplayer basta connected digitally sa avr na may dts decoder pwere ka pa rin manood using dts mode?

yup, tama po kayo dito

Quote

e paano kung sa 6 channel direct input connected ganun rin ba?

hindi na po parehas yan kasi magiging "analog" na ang connection nyo nyan, so walang "dts" kung wala ring decoder ang player nyo

bumblebee · « **Reply #3192 on:** Jul 29, 2006 at 10:27 AM »

Look for the "DTS digital out" logo.

knefut · « **Reply #3193 on:** Jul 29, 2006 at 10:58 AM »

Quote from: kojie on Jul 28, 2006 at 09:48 PM

Planning to get the jbl scs200.6 and hk135 sa abensons.. ok pa rin ba na combo to ?? my budget is limited, kung may suggestions kyo na mas ok please feel free to do so ...

tnx in advance .

mahal nga sa abensons. you can get the 135 cheaper elsewhere.

chiemonyo · « **Reply #3194 on:** Jul 29, 2006 at 11:17 AM »

Just saw HK AVR135 at Spectra Parksquare yesterday tagged at 18.5 K..

aHobbit · « **Reply #3195 on:** Jul 29, 2006 at 11:58 AM »

Quote from: jaytee15 on Jul 28, 2006 at 04:50 PM

so, tama ba? kahit walang built in dts decoder yung dvdplayer basta connected digitally sa avr na may dts decoder pwere ka pa rin manood using dts mode?

e paano kung sa 6 channel direct input connected ganun rin ba?

sa 1st question - yes - but you have to configure both DVD (RAW output) and AVR (process DTS).

sa 2nd question - no - AVR can only decode digital signal, RCA is an analog signal - already decoded. thus, if your DVD is set to DTS and has no decoder, RCA will have no signal.

kojie · « **Reply #3196 on:** Jul 29, 2006 at 01:24 PM »

Quote from: BongerDude on Jul 29, 2006 at 07:58 AM

Bro mahal sa abenson. saang abenson ka ba tumingin? How much yang combo?

balak ko yugn combo nila na jbl scs 200.6 and hk avr 135 for 36k ... ok na price ba yun ??

if not saan mas mura?

pietra · « **Reply #3197 on:** Jul 29, 2006 at 06:21 PM »

Quote from: EHMBU on Jul 29, 2006 at 08:53 AM

Sir sa Beyond Innovations (unit B4 Topy's Plate, Calle, industria, Cor. economia St., Libis Q.C.

Hope this help...

i just brought my avr230 there the other day. its stuck in standby mode. still waiting for their diagnosis and quotation. $:-\$

it stopped working the other day, exactly 1 month after the 1 year warranty expired.

czedryk · « **Reply #3198 on:** Jul 31, 2006 at 10:07 AM »

Quote from: czedryk on Jul 27, 2006 at 04:59 PM

Tnx for the reply sir AV, sir Mat....
I'll run a test this Sat, will only hook the 2 B&Ws and see what happens...

I hope this doesn't need another repair... :'(

Tnx again...

My fears were realised last Sat when I tested my AVR in stereo mode (by unhooking other channels)
It worked for a couple of mins... then suddenly it stopped and went on Standby mode... It didn't turn on again...

Decided to stop the test that it might cause a few more damages in the AVR.

Already called Beyond Innovations and they said that I have no choice but to bring it back to them... :'( :'( :'(

iamlet · « **Reply #3199 on:** Aug 01, 2006 at 12:38 PM »

guys,

got my first receiver... a 235.

tried to pair it with a wharfe 9.5, but i thought its more than what i need, so I got a 9.1 instead.

sulit..

thanks for all the inputs dito thread.

knefut · « **Reply #3200 on:** Aug 01, 2006 at 12:55 PM »

Quote from: iamlet on Aug 01, 2006 at 12:38 PM

guys,

got my first receiver... a 235.

tried to pair it with a wharfe 9.5, but i thought its more than what i need, so I got a 9.1 instead.

sulit..

thanks for all the inputs dito thread.

wait til they're fully broken in sir...

MAtZTER · « **Reply #3201 on:** Aug 01, 2006 at 01:52 PM »

Quote from: iamlet on Aug 01, 2006 at 12:38 PM

guys,

got my first receiver... a 235.

tried to pair it with a wharfe 9.5, but i thought its more than what i need, so I got a 9.1 instead.

sulit..

thanks for all the inputs dito thread.

congrats! Good combo!

danrd · « **Reply #3202 on:** Aug 01, 2006 at 04:36 PM »

Quote

guys,

got my first receiver... a 235.

tried to pair it with a wharfe 9.5, but i thought its more than what i need, so I got a 9.1 instead.

sulit..

thanks for all the inputs dito thread.

Congrats!

Welcome to the club. Sayang, that should sound better with a 9.5. But that's enough anyway.

keema · « **Reply #3203 on:** Aug 07, 2006 at 08:51 PM »

meron na daw HK140 sa architectural audio..
malamang na-try na nila ito kaya ito ang masasabi nila...

first impression nila:Bigger sounding, instruments/effects are more separated, warmer yet more detailed than the 135.

hmm...pano kaya pag 240 naman?

sabi ng mga napag tanungan ko..wala naman daw pinagkaiba yung 135 at yung 140..yung ipod dock lang ang nadagdag..sa tingin ko lang naman...hindi lang naman cguro yung ipod dock yung nadagdag.."opinion ko palang to kahit hindi ko pa na audition"

BongerDude · « **Reply #3204 on:** Aug 07, 2006 at 09:17 PM »

Mga bros, question lang.

Sa tingin nyo, ano mas magandang combination sa sound quality lang? Hindi na kasama yung features ng AVR like preouts etc..

AVR235 + Wharfedale 9.5 / 9.6 (6 ohm speakers , higher wattage avr)
or
AVR135 + Mission m34 (8 ohm speakers, lower wattage avr)

Gusto ko lang po malaman inputs nyo mga gurus. Salamat!

MAtZTER · « **Reply #3205 on:** Aug 08, 2006 at 10:30 AM »

Quote from: BongerDude on Aug 07, 2006 at 09:17 PM

Mga bros, question lang.

Sa tingin nyo, ano mas magandang combination sa sound quality lang? Hindi na kasama yung features ng AVR like preouts etc..

AVR235 + Wharfedale 9.5 / 9.6 (6 ohm speakers , higher wattage avr)
or
AVR135 + Mission m34 (8 ohm speakers, lower wattage avr)

Gusto ko lang po malaman inputs nyo mga gurus. Salamat!

Danrd! Ikaw makakasagot nito. Nasubukan mo na both HK 135 & 335. Ano masasabi mo sa difference?

Bong, I suggest get the higher models for floorstanders. I have a friend who bought a 235 for his floorstanders and bitin daw.

Kung sa sound quality lang, almost the same ang amp section ng 135 & 235. But iba na ginamit nilang amp for 335 up. Kaya sya mas mahal kahit 5w lang difference. So you would hear a better sound quality only at 335 & up.

danrd · « **Reply #3206 on:** Aug 08, 2006 at 10:44 AM »

Quote from: MAtZTER on Aug 08, 2006 at 10:30 AM

Danrd! Ikaw makakasagot nito. Nasubukan mo na both HK 135 & 335. Ano masasabi mo sa difference?

Bong, I suggest get the higher models for floorstanders. I have a friend who bought a 235 for his floorstanders and bitin daw.

Kung sa sound quality lang, almost the same ang amp section ng 135 & 235. But iba na ginamit nilang amp for 335 up. Kaya sya mas mahal kahit 5w lang difference. So you would hear a better sound quality only at 335 & up.

Yes I actually have pmed bong reg this. And I think he went for it and bought the Missions. I experienced the same scenario. I really felt the VERY BIG difference in upgrading speakers at 8ohms.

Quote

AVR235 + Wharfedale 9.5 / 9.6 (6 ohm speakers , higher wattage avr)
or
AVR135 + Mission m34 (8 ohm speakers, lower wattage avr)

My survey says:
AVR135 + Mission m34 (8 ohm speakers, lower wattage avr)

BongerDude · « **Reply #3207 on:** Aug 08, 2006 at 11:03 AM »

Quote from: MAtZTER on Aug 08, 2006 at 10:30 AM

Danrd! Ikaw makakasagot nito. Nasubukan mo na both HK 135 & 335. Ano masasabi mo sa difference?

Bong, I suggest get the higher models for floorstanders. I have a friend who bought a 235 for his floorstanders and bitin daw.

Kung sa sound quality lang, almost the same ang amp section ng 135 & 235. But iba na ginamit nilang amp for 335 up. Kaya sya mas mahal kahit 5w lang difference. So you would hear a better sound quality only at 335 & up.

Sir matz, I just want to confirm lang po kasi my experience. Kasi tama si pareng danrd. I consulted him po kasi para sa upgrade ko. Parang nag upgrade ako ng AVR nung nagpalit ako ng floorstanders from Euros8 towers (6 ohms) to mission m74i (8 ohms). Although sa normal listening levels parang pantay lang sila, mararamdaman mo yung difference pag cranked up ang volume. Anlaki pala ng difference ng 2ohms.

Point of reference lang yung wharfedale 9.5/9.6 na 6ohms kasi alam ko maraming may ganyang floorstanders dito kesa sa euros 8 at mission m34 naman kasi marami ding may experience sa m34 dito compared sa m74i.

Kaya I'm wondering kung you were to choose po kung ibabase sa sound quality lang, 235 + 6 ohms Floorstanders versus 135 +8 ohms floorstanders, what would you choose?

Salamat po sa lahat ng magrereply!

BongerDude · « **Reply #3208 on:** Aug 08, 2006 at 11:11 AM »

Quote from: danrd on Aug 08, 2006 at 10:44 AM

Yes I actually have pmed bong reg this. And I think he went for it and bought the Missions. I experienced the same scenario. I really felt the VERY BIG difference in upgrading speakers at 8ohms.

My survey says:
AVR135 + Mission m34 (8 ohm speakers, lower wattage avr)

Yes sir danrd thanks for input. You're a big influence po talaga sa decision ko. Wala eh IDOL eh!

Meron pa po ba may experience na ganito?

danrd · « **Reply #3209 on:** Aug 08, 2006 at 11:24 AM »

Quote from: BongerDude on Aug 08, 2006 at 11:11 AM

Yes sir danrd thanks for input. You're a big influence po talaga sa decision ko. Wala eh IDOL eh!

Meron pa po ba may experience na ganito?

I'm glad you're happy with your decision. Enjoy mo muna yan then go for Velo pag may pera ka na ulit. The important thing is sulit ang moves mo every step of the way.